Just found out a "Friend" I work with is a sex offender, 2nd Conviction for extreme child molestation Options

[DEATH]

I'm so messed up in the head right now. I feel like killing this man myself and I know nothing of the child other than she was two years old and this is his second conviction. A little background:
I work at a machine/fabrication shop where I'm the head of the engineering department. That means I and the people under me design equipment and parts for equipment that performs a specific function. All of which means I'm out on the shop floor very often, making sure the parts and assemblies I design work properly before they go into mass production. One of the guys I worked pretty closely with in our weld room over the last 8 years or so was on parole for some felony or another - heck most of these guys are. It's just the sort trade that employs alot of ex-cons [I'd say there are more ex-cons than not in the male population out here in the shop]. Now granted, I didn't hang with the guy outside of work, I never had beers with him or any of that. The most I ever saw outside of work was once when he drove his car into a ditch I helped him out, drove him to work. But he seemed like this really nice old man who, yeah maybe fcuked up bad when he was younger and now was just living the rest of his life the best he could. He had several embarresing visits from his Parole Officer up here - he took them in stride, didn't get upset or overly embarresed. He seemed repentative and content to live out his last few years peacefully.
This morning I find out he won't be coming back to work anymore because he was caught sexually molesting a 2yo little girl. Nevermind the question how did he get a little girl like that alone - I have no idea of the details. Sounds to me like some parents need to be going to jail too but that's another question and I have no way of judging that situation [It's just I'm a parent and I know noone is ever allowed time like that around my children with out my knowledge and supervision]. I also found out that that was the felony he was previously convicted of and had served his time for [And I hope those of you who don't support the death penalty for sex crimes are proud of yourselves - I'm sure this little girl would thank you for your kindness if she could. Sarcasm, obviously. If we had executed him the first time this happened another little girl wouldn't have had her life ruined by this horrible act.].
As I said - It's got me messed up. I'm usually a great judge of character but I never saw this coming. I think that if I had found this out before the police did it would be me in jail for murder and him 6 feet under ATM. And I don't feel in the least bit remorseful about that.
These fcuking bastards should all be killed to protect the world's children from them. That's my opinion.
Please discuss this. Please do so maturely. Please respect other's opinions.
Mod's - I'm sorry in advance if this must be closed - I just don't know any other group this diverse that I can get other opinions from that will be different from my own.

[presure2]

you never know who you will meet in life.
i cant help but feel like every person convicted of a sex offense like that should seriously just be killed.

i know if someone molested MY daughter, that person would die, one way or another.

on a side note, D, the topic is fine IMO.
lets just keep it on topic, and not get out of control, and everything is cool in my book.

[DEATH]

you never know who you will meet in life.
i cant help but feel like every person convicted of a sex offense like that should seriously just be killed.

i know if someone molested MY daughter, that person would die, one way or another.

on a side note, D, the topic is fine IMO.
lets just keep it on topic, and not get out of control, and everything is cool in my book.

Thanks Pressure. See I know we have mature adults from over seas on here as well and I know their opinions on the death penalty often widely differ from our own. This is one of those situations, I beleive, that shows the rehabilitation system has just allowed for another innocent to be harmed. I'd just like to see what those that normally would say "But we can't just kill them" think now. Someone took that attitude and now a little girl's life has been ruined in the most horrible of ways. I know girls who were molested as a child. For some reason the Goth community is full of twisted adult females who can trace their sexual preferences right back to some haenous act such as this. So I'm a little biased - I can see where this leads.
I'd like to hear from some of our friends here who normally oppose capital punishment. What are their thoughts now that we see it most certainly should have been the solution to this man's problems.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to hear those other views. I just hope we can keep this civil and mature [I think we can].

D-Man - I knew this one would touch you personally. I already knew that you're oppinion would be the same as mine. Thank you for articulating a very good interum solution. I think until we can get the proper death penalties installed, you're ideas would be the next best thing.

Let's hear what some of our European friends think.

[Shink]

Let's hear what some of our European friends think.

I think you'll find I'm not too wrong in saying that the European perspective is very similar. Sex crimes are some of the very worst crimes imaginable simply because of the innocence of the victim and the f***ed up nature of the crime. I, myself, am utterly appalled and saddened by this and can imagine that this has really hurt you - as a father, especially.

As far as the death penalty goes, I don't know. Death is a way to protect the innocent from future crimes and make the public feel safer, and feel that justice has been served - a justice that matches or exceeds the crime. This is a good thing. It is not, however, a deterrent - sex crimes seem to come from a severe mental illness and, just like homicide, there is no evidence that the death penalty stops people doing the crime. And the problem with the death penalty then is that there must be one victim before there can be punishment. Surely the best thing is to prevent all sex crimes. This cannot be done if the solution is revenge.

To eliminate all sex crimes there must be exploration and understanding - the problem must be understood. This is harder, because it means that we need to be able to talk about it. People who suffer the mental problems that lead to sex crimes need to be able to talk about it with someone. This stretches our tolerance much farther than it has ever been stretched. But it is only through openness and therapy that ALL children can be protected.

That is the rational side of it. But I know that just like you, and everyone else I expect, I'd want to kill the ****er, too

Edit: just wanted to add - I do recognize that not all sex criminals are mentally ill - some people are just plain bad.

This post has been edited by Shink: Jul 18, 2008 - 10:35 AM

[DEATH]

Let's hear what some of our European friends think.

First let me say I was not trying to call anyone out when I said that. It just seems that the masses in Europe tend to be alot more on the prevention side of the solution than here where more favor capital punishment. Obviously both sides of the pond have people on both sides of the fence.

Surely the best thing is to prevent all sex crimes. This cannot be done if the solution is revenge.

But can't you see my point in this? We tried already to rehabilitate this man for similar crimes he was previously convicted of and what do we get for our humane treatment? What do we get for the trouble of taking the moral high road? We get another innocent victim. Another potentially ruined life.
If we had killed this bastard the first time there would be no second time. Plain, simple, honest and direct. Positive solution - Problem solved.

And another thing I'd like to say is thank you to everyone who is taking the time out to talk this over rationally with me - it's helping my mental state cause I've been anguishing all morning about whether I should have known and done something about it. I'm intelligent enough to know that that's a stupid way to think. Who am I to have done anything to prevent? But my heart rarely bleeds for anyone or anything - it does for this poor little girl. I hope they get him in prison [Prison justice FTMFW].
I am getting calmer through this thread tho - slowly. Let's hear all sides - anyone else have an opinion?

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jul 18, 2008 - 11:24 AM