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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) ![]() |
I'm so messed up in the head right now. I feel like killing this man myself and I know nothing of the child other than she was two years old and this is his second conviction. A little background:
I work at a machine/fabrication shop where I'm the head of the engineering department. That means I and the people under me design equipment and parts for equipment that performs a specific function. All of which means I'm out on the shop floor very often, making sure the parts and assemblies I design work properly before they go into mass production. One of the guys I worked pretty closely with in our weld room over the last 8 years or so was on parole for some felony or another - heck most of these guys are. It's just the sort trade that employs alot of ex-cons [I'd say there are more ex-cons than not in the male population out here in the shop]. Now granted, I didn't hang with the guy outside of work, I never had beers with him or any of that. The most I ever saw outside of work was once when he drove his car into a ditch I helped him out, drove him to work. But he seemed like this really nice old man who, yeah maybe fcuked up bad when he was younger and now was just living the rest of his life the best he could. He had several embarresing visits from his Parole Officer up here - he took them in stride, didn't get upset or overly embarresed. He seemed repentative and content to live out his last few years peacefully. This morning I find out he won't be coming back to work anymore because he was caught sexually molesting a 2yo little girl. Nevermind the question how did he get a little girl like that alone - I have no idea of the details. Sounds to me like some parents need to be going to jail too but that's another question and I have no way of judging that situation [It's just I'm a parent and I know noone is ever allowed time like that around my children with out my knowledge and supervision]. I also found out that that was the felony he was previously convicted of and had served his time for [And I hope those of you who don't support the death penalty for sex crimes are proud of yourselves - I'm sure this little girl would thank you for your kindness if she could. Sarcasm, obviously. If we had executed him the first time this happened another little girl wouldn't have had her life ruined by this horrible act.]. As I said - It's got me messed up. I'm usually a great judge of character but I never saw this coming. I think that if I had found this out before the police did it would be me in jail for murder and him 6 feet under ATM. And I don't feel in the least bit remorseful about that. These fcuking bastards should all be killed to protect the world's children from them. That's my opinion. Please discuss this. Please do so maturely. Please respect other's opinions. Mod's - I'm sorry in advance if this must be closed - I just don't know any other group this diverse that I can get other opinions from that will be different from my own. ![]() -------------------- ![]() ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 18, '07 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
I am not gonna get onto the whole sex offender thing its sick and they should pay for what they do. I am not trying 2 let them off the hook, but the death penalty is NOT the answer. I did a huge paper on the death penalty and to be honest is does not work and cost millions of tax payer dollars more then just putting a person in jail for life. I am very opposed the death penalty. Its makes us all murderers. And i am just giving you the facts here, but states with the death penalty actually have a higher rate per capita of violent crimes and rapes then states without. Its just does not work.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 2, '07 From Great Western Plateau Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) ![]() |
I am not gonna get onto the whole sex offender thing its sick and they should pay for what they do. I am not trying 2 let them off the hook, but the death penalty is NOT the answer. I did a huge paper on the death penalty and to be honest is does not work and cost millions of tax payer dollars more then just putting a person in jail for life. I am very opposed the death penalty. Its makes us all murderers. And i am just giving you the facts here, but states with the death penalty actually have a higher rate per capita of violent crimes and rapes then states without. Its just does not work. I think that death penalty is too easy on them, that kind of ppl should be tied up, kick them in the balls, put honey on them and let the ants go lose. Then jail them for life and carry out the above procedures everymonth!! But seriously. If a person knows that they'll face life imprison then they will think twice abt what they're gonna do, coz life imprison IMO is worse than death penalty. -------------------- ![]() 98% completion --- aaRon |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 18, '07 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
I am not gonna get onto the whole sex offender thing its sick and they should pay for what they do. I am not trying 2 let them off the hook, but the death penalty is NOT the answer. I did a huge paper on the death penalty and to be honest is does not work and cost millions of tax payer dollars more then just putting a person in jail for life. I am very opposed the death penalty. Its makes us all murderers. And i am just giving you the facts here, but states with the death penalty actually have a higher rate per capita of violent crimes and rapes then states without. Its just does not work. I think that death penalty is too easy on them, that kind of ppl should be tied up, kick them in the balls, put honey on them and let the ants go lose. Then jail them for life and carry out the above procedures everymonth!! But seriously. If a person knows that they'll face life imprison then they will think twice abt what they're gonna do, coz life imprison IMO is worse than death penalty. thats the thing IF it did prevent crimes then fine do it. BUT IT DOES NOT!!! One of the biggest studies of the 20th century takes all the data found on the crime rates in states with the death penalty and its ALWAYS higher in states with the death penalty, its even breaks it down crime by crime and county by county and its without exception, HIGHER. And any criminal psychologist will tell that it will never work as a deterrent bcuz all crimes like this r committed by people that either dont care of the consequences or dont think they will get caught. Its like a sick drug to them they just feel the need to do these sick things without rhyme or reason. So how could you thing of the penalty when they r not thinking at all. -------------------- Your signature is not allowed on 6GC - Defgeph
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 2, '07 From Great Western Plateau Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) ![]() |
So how could you thing of the penalty when they r not thinking at all. If thats the case then I guess nothing can stop them ![]() -------------------- ![]() 98% completion --- aaRon |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 18, '07 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
So how could you thing of the penalty when they r not thinking at all. If thats the case then I guess nothing can stop them ![]() I think the only way 2 stop them and prevent them it by identifying people with poor mental health that exhibit signs of this type of behavior at any age. -------------------- Your signature is not allowed on 6GC - Defgeph
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 7, '07 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 67 (96%) ![]() |
So how could you thing of the penalty when they r not thinking at all. If thats the case then I guess nothing can stop them ![]() I think the only way 2 stop them and prevent them it by identifying people with poor mental health that exhibit signs of this type of behavior at any age. That's much easier said than done. Typically people who are mentally ill and have a proclivity toward sexual deviance do not exhibit easily recognizable behaviors. Yes, prevention would be the answer, unfortunately, whether a person is mentally ill or not, the fact still remains that pedophiles can NOT be rehabilitated. They simply can't. It's interesting this has come up here... Death, I feel for you. I really do. In a way I live with this sort of thing on a day-to-day basis. My g/f works for the State in an MRDD group home. The particular home she works in now houses sex offenders, specifically and primarily pedophiles. She has to interact with these people on a day-to-day basis. For the most part, she can handle it. They are people who are literally mentally retarded, some of whom have the mentality and development of a 5 year old. These are people who were severely abused as children, by either their parents or relatives, or by a (now closed) state-operated hospital group-home type of place. These particular clients are easy to deal with, because their environment is strictly controlled and thus they're basically just not exposed to anything that would "make their minds wander" in that direction. Their behavior is simply and genuinely a life-long knee-jerk reaction to their own past abuse. However - there's one client in particular who is not retarded. He's not exactly bright, but he's not actually retarded. He plays dumb. And everyone knows it, including the psychiatrists who were sought out to label this guy retarded so that he could remain in state custody after he was released from his 13 years in prison. This guy constantly exhibits what's called "grooming" behavior toward the other clients, one in particular. When he talks about his last offense that got him the 13 years in prison, he says the only thing he did wrong was not killing the boy. My g/f has to work with this guy daily. In fact she has to spend an inordinate amount of one-on-one time with him, as he has a "job" (State vocational program) and it's her job to take him to his job every day and oversee him. She actually likes her job, but this guy and working with him absolutely turns her stomach. She's currently putting in for a different shift, so she won't have to interact with him so much, and she's also looking for a new job. The thing she's learned from working at this particular house is that basically, you just never know. Someone can seem totally normal and chill and fine, but be a complete sick fcuk. This is just another reason why it's important to be an attentive parent. Know who your kids are hanging out with, get to know the parents, know what your kids are doing on line, and have an open and communicative relationship with your kids. This is getting so long... I could go on and on here... so I'll end it with this. Personally, as for the death penalty - I support it for child sex offenders. But since we're not going to exercise the death penalty for crimes that don't involve the death of another person, that's basically off the table. I think these people should be castrated and put in jail for the rest of their lives with no parole. (I say castrated because 99% of sex offenders are male.) Basically, brand 'em, make 'em a bitch, and let the rest of the prison population take care of them. Generally they will - look at what happened to Dahmer. He didn't last long in prison at all. -------------------- ![]() |
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