Just found out a "Friend" I work with is a sex offender, 2nd Conviction for extreme child molestation Options

[DEATH]

I'm so messed up in the head right now. I feel like killing this man myself and I know nothing of the child other than she was two years old and this is his second conviction. A little background:
I work at a machine/fabrication shop where I'm the head of the engineering department. That means I and the people under me design equipment and parts for equipment that performs a specific function. All of which means I'm out on the shop floor very often, making sure the parts and assemblies I design work properly before they go into mass production. One of the guys I worked pretty closely with in our weld room over the last 8 years or so was on parole for some felony or another - heck most of these guys are. It's just the sort trade that employs alot of ex-cons [I'd say there are more ex-cons than not in the male population out here in the shop]. Now granted, I didn't hang with the guy outside of work, I never had beers with him or any of that. The most I ever saw outside of work was once when he drove his car into a ditch I helped him out, drove him to work. But he seemed like this really nice old man who, yeah maybe fcuked up bad when he was younger and now was just living the rest of his life the best he could. He had several embarresing visits from his Parole Officer up here - he took them in stride, didn't get upset or overly embarresed. He seemed repentative and content to live out his last few years peacefully.
This morning I find out he won't be coming back to work anymore because he was caught sexually molesting a 2yo little girl. Nevermind the question how did he get a little girl like that alone - I have no idea of the details. Sounds to me like some parents need to be going to jail too but that's another question and I have no way of judging that situation [It's just I'm a parent and I know noone is ever allowed time like that around my children with out my knowledge and supervision]. I also found out that that was the felony he was previously convicted of and had served his time for [And I hope those of you who don't support the death penalty for sex crimes are proud of yourselves - I'm sure this little girl would thank you for your kindness if she could. Sarcasm, obviously. If we had executed him the first time this happened another little girl wouldn't have had her life ruined by this horrible act.].
As I said - It's got me messed up. I'm usually a great judge of character but I never saw this coming. I think that if I had found this out before the police did it would be me in jail for murder and him 6 feet under ATM. And I don't feel in the least bit remorseful about that.
These fcuking bastards should all be killed to protect the world's children from them. That's my opinion.
Please discuss this. Please do so maturely. Please respect other's opinions.
Mod's - I'm sorry in advance if this must be closed - I just don't know any other group this diverse that I can get other opinions from that will be different from my own.

[Havok1997GT]

First: i think that we can all agree that there is no gray area with this issue. Its wrong on a leave that cant be rated. Its the worse thing that anyone can do to someone. I have known many people that have been molested and some are still very close to me.

As far as killing these people for what they have done, here is what i have to say.

You can say that these people are ill and need help, NO. This is not the case. What is wrong with these people is in the brain. They may be able to be taught to ignore the urges to molest but thats it.

(please do not take this the wrong way) Gay people are attracted to the same sex. This is not a learned feeling. This is what their brain is telling them is attractive. This can not be cured. The same can be said about Molesters. Its in their brain. It can not be cured.


So. Should we kill someone for not being able to control themselves?

Murder is a choice. A person will choose to kill someone. A person will choose to drive home drunk and kill a person on a side walk. Although all of these choices can be altered by beer and emotion, they are still choices. Molesters do not choose to molest, its right to them. Its ok, they do not understand why its wrong other then the law says so. and they continue to do it because, to them, its like telling a Gay person to be attracted to the right sex, or telling a strait person to be attracted to the same sex. It cant happen. Therefore, molesters will forever be this way.

So. Back to the question. If they can not control themselves they are a danger to society, however, how can you kill someone for a defect in the brain? that like kill Down syndrome kids because they cant function in the world. Or, again, killing gays for being attracted to the wrong sex. If a person murders your family because they wanted the car they were driving and they were in the way, then thats a clear thinking person who made the choice to kill, this person should be shot on site because he knew what he was doing. A molester believes what he is doing is right and should be legal because they dont understand why its wrong. So if they dont understand, why should they die for that?

Now. Thats how i feel about it. But because of how hanass the crime is, would i kill that person for molesting a child. Yes. because i cant get past the fact that its a child. That fact in of itself takes how i feel about this issue, logic and anything other then rage out of my mind. Is this right? No. But i cant help it, and im sure the rest of you can help it either. You dont want to think this way because You dont want to kill someone who cant stop themselves, but you dont want them on the streets with the rest of the world to do something this horrible. But if we realize that these people cant be helped then that only leaves us with Kill them or lock them up forever or find a way to hack the brain and change this problem in their brain so they dont think this way. Well i dont think killing them is the right way to go. To me, that make you worse then them, now you are killing someone that has no control over their actions and doesnt understand why your killing them, what good does that do other then revenge? None. Lock them up? Well that could work but only if we understand that they cant be cured and they must stay their because they will forever be a risk. Fix the Brain? Well when we can do that, then this will never be an issue again will it?

I guess what im saying is just that Molesting is a illness. It SHOULD be treated that way, and realized that there is no fixing it. and due to the dangerous nature of this illness it should bethere needs to be a better way to handle this issue then kill them, or try to fix them, cuz killing someone for not being able to see why what they are doing is wrong just doesnt seem right to me, and since there is no way to fix them, something else has to be done. My point is i just dont think you can place the death penalty on someone who is un aware of what the problem is.

This post has been edited by Havok1997GT: Jul 18, 2008 - 8:11 PM