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post Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
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The 5s-fe and the 3s-ge,3s-gte are the same motor with different heads no?

Then why is everybody so juiced to swap in the 3s-gte?When couldnt use a 3s-ge head from late 90s on a 5s-fe and get about 200bhp without a turbo?

Or am i missing something?

I'm basing this on a 2.0l 3s-ge from late 90s having about 175hp and putting that head onto the stroker 2.2l block seems to make sense?

People talk like the 5s-fe is a different engine when its just a different head and longer throw crank?


Or could even a 3sgte head work without the turbo?
 
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post Aug 27, 2008 - 7:46 PM
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just to let you know the 5s block is completly diff to any 3s block. For a start the block is physically taller by around 50mm (2" for you stone age non metric people tongue.gif) because the 5s runs balance shafts in the lower end of the block.

a mate of mine has done a 5sge in a 162 celica with pleasing results, used the gen1 3s-ge head. bit of die grinding is needed on the head to make the water jackets line up.

contrary to popular belief the 5s crank is strong enough to handle big hp. sure it doesnt rev as hard as the 3s stock, but think about it, engines like sr20 and 4g63 are under square (longer stroke then bore) so with some balancing and attention a 5s stroker could rev to 7 or 8 fine, any more revs and your just asking for trouble, you dont need to rev that hard anyway because above 5 or 6k a stroker wont make any more power then the 3s.


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Posts in this topic
- myloth   5s-fe 3s-ge head?   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
- - Taskbot   any time you try and bolt a different head to a di...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:05 AM
|- - D-Man   It's been done, and with Phenomenal results. ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:12 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:0...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:19 AM
||- - Taskbot   QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:19 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 1:09 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 9:05...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:46 AM
|- - GTSOwner   QUOTE (nik @ Aug 29, 2008 - 11:46 AM...   Aug 29, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - reko   No its not the same motor, its the same serie, the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 12:10 PM
- - myloth   Ok makes sense I couldnt find out that much. <b...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:34 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 2:34 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:49 PM
|- - myloth   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 27, 2008 - 7...   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:09 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 11:09...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:01 AM
- - DEATH   I think you'd be better served swapping in the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:40 PM
- - myloth   Beams shoot I think I'd be better off getting ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:31 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   just to let you know the 5s block is completly dif...   Aug 27, 2008 - 7:46 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 3S-FE The Toyota 3S-FE is a 16 valve 2.0L tw...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:22 AM
- - Tech-Nics   JDM cars built for the JDM market will always be b...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:42 AM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Aug 28, 2008 - 9...   Aug 28, 2008 - 9:53 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE Why is it that their speedo only goes to 110...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:59 PM
- - DEATH   Of course the OP is talking about 5S/3S - same ide...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:55 AM
- - trdproven   old thread but can I see the 3sge head on a 5sfe b...   Jun 6, 2010 - 10:48 PM
- - nics   have you checked the mr2 forums?   Jun 7, 2010 - 1:16 AM
- - trdproven   ill check that out   Jun 7, 2010 - 10:26 AM


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