5s-fe 3s-ge head? Options

[myloth]

The 5s-fe and the 3s-ge,3s-gte are the same motor with different heads no?

Then why is everybody so juiced to swap in the 3s-gte?When couldnt use a 3s-ge head from late 90s on a 5s-fe and get about 200bhp without a turbo?

Or am i missing something?

I'm basing this on a 2.0l 3s-ge from late 90s having about 175hp and putting that head onto the stroker 2.2l block seems to make sense?

People talk like the 5s-fe is a different engine when its just a different head and longer throw crank?


Or could even a 3sgte head work without the turbo?

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

just to let you know the 5s block is completly diff to any 3s block. For a start the block is physically taller by around 50mm (2" for you stone age non metric people ) because the 5s runs balance shafts in the lower end of the block.

a mate of mine has done a 5sge in a 162 celica with pleasing results, used the gen1 3s-ge head. bit of die grinding is needed on the head to make the water jackets line up.

contrary to popular belief the 5s crank is strong enough to handle big hp. sure it doesnt rev as hard as the 3s stock, but think about it, engines like sr20 and 4g63 are under square (longer stroke then bore) so with some balancing and attention a 5s stroker could rev to 7 or 8 fine, any more revs and your just asking for trouble, you dont need to rev that hard anyway because above 5 or 6k a stroker wont make any more power then the 3s.