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post Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
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The 5s-fe and the 3s-ge,3s-gte are the same motor with different heads no?

Then why is everybody so juiced to swap in the 3s-gte?When couldnt use a 3s-ge head from late 90s on a 5s-fe and get about 200bhp without a turbo?

Or am i missing something?

I'm basing this on a 2.0l 3s-ge from late 90s having about 175hp and putting that head onto the stroker 2.2l block seems to make sense?

People talk like the 5s-fe is a different engine when its just a different head and longer throw crank?


Or could even a 3sgte head work without the turbo?
 
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post Aug 27, 2008 - 4:34 PM
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Ok makes sense I couldnt find out that much.
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Anybody ever use the 3s-ge with the vvt?And is it possible to get close to 200bhp out of non turboized 3s-gte?
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I'm not big turbo fan I had some turbo cars but just adds to the expense and hassle in my view.
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Not looking for 500bhp either just more than the puny 135 in my 94.Why is it the Japanese always put crippled engines in US cars and offer some beast motor everywhere else.
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Would like to keep motor cost to 2k.(I can get a rebuilt 5s-fe for 2k.Mine has 188k and I'm the nervous type.No labor involved as I can put it in myself.
post Aug 27, 2008 - 6:49 PM
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QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 2:34 PM) *
Why is it the Japanese always put crippled engines in US cars and offer some beast motor everywhere else.


US emissions is why. Or so they say. cwm13.gif


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post Aug 27, 2008 - 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 27, 2008 - 7:49 PM) *
QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 2:34 PM) *
Why is it the Japanese always put crippled engines in US cars and offer some beast motor everywhere else.


US emissions is why. Or so they say. cwm13.gif

Well I don't know about that owning cars like an 86 Omni-GLH,88 Tbird Turbo Coupe,99 Taurus SHO and friends driving stuff from that era like 92 Spirit rt(Evil back in the day with few mods),even my sisters byfriend owns a 95 z28 with over 300hp with very few mods at the wheel!All these were close to bone stock Toyota had other reasons than emissons. I can see the ST as Poser mobile but if the "GT" is the performance model eh it's really a nice car too otherwise I admit handles great,look good just got jipped when they gave out hp.
post Aug 28, 2008 - 8:01 AM
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QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 11:09 PM) *
I can see the ST as Poser mobile but if the "GT" is the performance model eh it's really a nice car too otherwise I admit handles great,look good just got jipped when they gave out hp.


This made me die a little inside :'(


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Posts in this topic
- myloth   5s-fe 3s-ge head?   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
- - Taskbot   any time you try and bolt a different head to a di...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:05 AM
|- - D-Man   It's been done, and with Phenomenal results. ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:12 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:0...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:19 AM
||- - Taskbot   QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:19 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 1:09 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 9:05...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:46 AM
|- - GTSOwner   QUOTE (nik @ Aug 29, 2008 - 11:46 AM...   Aug 29, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - reko   No its not the same motor, its the same serie, the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 12:10 PM
- - myloth   Ok makes sense I couldnt find out that much. <b...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:34 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 2:34 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:49 PM
|- - myloth   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 27, 2008 - 7...   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:09 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 11:09...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:01 AM
- - DEATH   I think you'd be better served swapping in the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:40 PM
- - myloth   Beams shoot I think I'd be better off getting ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:31 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   just to let you know the 5s block is completly dif...   Aug 27, 2008 - 7:46 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 3S-FE The Toyota 3S-FE is a 16 valve 2.0L tw...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:22 AM
- - Tech-Nics   JDM cars built for the JDM market will always be b...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:42 AM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Aug 28, 2008 - 9...   Aug 28, 2008 - 9:53 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE Why is it that their speedo only goes to 110...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:59 PM
- - DEATH   Of course the OP is talking about 5S/3S - same ide...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:55 AM
- - trdproven   old thread but can I see the 3sge head on a 5sfe b...   Jun 6, 2010 - 10:48 PM
- - nics   have you checked the mr2 forums?   Jun 7, 2010 - 1:16 AM
- - trdproven   ill check that out   Jun 7, 2010 - 10:26 AM


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