5s-fe 3s-ge head? Options

[myloth]

The 5s-fe and the 3s-ge,3s-gte are the same motor with different heads no?

Then why is everybody so juiced to swap in the 3s-gte?When couldnt use a 3s-ge head from late 90s on a 5s-fe and get about 200bhp without a turbo?

Or am i missing something?

I'm basing this on a 2.0l 3s-ge from late 90s having about 175hp and putting that head onto the stroker 2.2l block seems to make sense?

People talk like the 5s-fe is a different engine when its just a different head and longer throw crank?


Or could even a 3sgte head work without the turbo?

[Tech-Nics]

JDM cars built for the JDM market will always be better than any USDM cars. Even the cars built here in the states for the JDM are built better than the one for our market. They always have the better options and slighty stronger engines. This applies to all Makes too from Japan. Funny thing to cause all of our domestic car makes here that are sold in other regions are as good as ours. Kinda unfair when you think about it. Besides most people in Japan don't really care for the USDM cars either. So they can give us the slower cars and really not care to much about it. Plus to the US has tons of safety laws & emissions too. Which doesn't help the problem. Then again if we have the slower and less powerfull versions than the JDM ones. Why is it that their speedo only goes to 110 mph and ours are 140mph+.

This post has been edited by Tech-Nics: Aug 28, 2008 - 8:45 AM

[Taskbot]

JDM cars built for the JDM market will always be better than any USDM cars. Even the cars built here in the states for the JDM are built better than the one for our market. They always have the better options and slighty stronger engines. This applies to all Makes too from Japan. Funny thing to cause all of our domestic car makes here that are sold in other regions are as good as ours. Kinda unfair when you think about it. Besides most people in Japan don't really care for the USDM cars either. So they can give us the slower cars and really not care to much about it. Plus to the US has tons of safety laws & emissions too. Which doesn't help the problem. Then again if we have the slower and less powerfull versions than the JDM ones. Why is it that their speedo only goes to 110 mph and ours are 140mph+.

There's a few things I want to add to this conversation even though its going slightly off topic. Cars in japan are electronically limited to 180km/h from the factory. No cars are safe from this even the new GT-R also has this problem. (and the limiter is released only at Nissan sanctioned tracks; this fact has sparked a lot of discussion)

Also not all JDM cars are more powerful than the USDM ones. The Gen IV Supra, put out 330HP in the US and 276 in Japan. This was during the time of the Gentleman's agreement to not exceed 280PS (276HP) in Japanese cars.

I think a lot of the JDM availability comes down to emissions laws, which were less strict in Japan. Most of the cars the USDM gets were basically guaranteed to repeatedly pass emissions testing especially in California. Where a 5S-FE might pass with flying colors a 3S-GE/3S-GTE might not. That being said the Gen IV. Supra Turbo was not available in California, New Jersey, New York and Massachusetts because of the stricter emissions regulations.

If you want to discuss this more we should start another thread and not spam this one.