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post Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
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The 5s-fe and the 3s-ge,3s-gte are the same motor with different heads no?

Then why is everybody so juiced to swap in the 3s-gte?When couldnt use a 3s-ge head from late 90s on a 5s-fe and get about 200bhp without a turbo?

Or am i missing something?

I'm basing this on a 2.0l 3s-ge from late 90s having about 175hp and putting that head onto the stroker 2.2l block seems to make sense?

People talk like the 5s-fe is a different engine when its just a different head and longer throw crank?


Or could even a 3sgte head work without the turbo?
 
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post Aug 27, 2008 - 11:05 AM
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any time you try and bolt a different head to a different bottom things always get a little strange. I don't know if anyone has tried to do this really but I can imagine its because the 5S-FE internals cannot handle the revs and power that the 3S-GE head is designed.

I really have no experience with the S engine but with the 7A-GE and 9A-GE there's a lot of different and hilarious things you have to do to jimmy the thing into working condition and almost every build has different specs even though its supposed to be "bolt on"

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post Aug 29, 2008 - 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 9:05 AM) *
any time you try and bolt a different head to a different bottom things always get a little strange. I don't know if anyone has tried to do this really but I can imagine its because the 5S-FE internals cannot handle the revs and power that the 3S-GE head is designed.

I really have no experience with the S engine but with the 7A-GE and 9A-GE there's a lot of different and hilarious things you have to do to jimmy the thing into working condition and almost every build has different specs even though its supposed to be "bolt on"


ok i want to clear a little of this up on here that i know of there are only 2 of us that have done 7a with the 4a head swap

the head is yes just a bolt on with apr 4a bolts the main probelm is the timing belt getting it set up to work right in my case we set up a different pulley system









then the coolant setup is the next problem but easily fixed with a few parts of a fwd 4a


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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
post Aug 29, 2008 - 5:02 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Aug 29, 2008 - 11:46 AM) *



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God those cam gears are sexy *drooool*


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Posts in this topic
- myloth   5s-fe 3s-ge head?   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:02 AM
- - Taskbot   any time you try and bolt a different head to a di...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:05 AM
|- - D-Man   It's been done, and with Phenomenal results. ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:12 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:0...   Aug 27, 2008 - 11:19 AM
||- - Taskbot   QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 27, 2008 - 12:19 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 1:09 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 27, 2008 - 9:05...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:46 AM
|- - GTSOwner   QUOTE (nik @ Aug 29, 2008 - 11:46 AM...   Aug 29, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - reko   No its not the same motor, its the same serie, the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 12:10 PM
- - myloth   Ok makes sense I couldnt find out that much. <b...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:34 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 2:34 ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:49 PM
|- - myloth   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 27, 2008 - 7...   Aug 27, 2008 - 10:09 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (myloth @ Aug 27, 2008 - 11:09...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:01 AM
- - DEATH   I think you'd be better served swapping in the...   Aug 27, 2008 - 4:40 PM
- - myloth   Beams shoot I think I'd be better off getting ...   Aug 27, 2008 - 6:31 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   just to let you know the 5s block is completly dif...   Aug 27, 2008 - 7:46 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 3S-FE The Toyota 3S-FE is a 16 valve 2.0L tw...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:22 AM
- - Tech-Nics   JDM cars built for the JDM market will always be b...   Aug 28, 2008 - 8:42 AM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Aug 28, 2008 - 9...   Aug 28, 2008 - 9:53 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE Why is it that their speedo only goes to 110...   Aug 28, 2008 - 4:59 PM
- - DEATH   Of course the OP is talking about 5S/3S - same ide...   Aug 29, 2008 - 10:55 AM
- - trdproven   old thread but can I see the 3sge head on a 5sfe b...   Jun 6, 2010 - 10:48 PM
- - nics   have you checked the mr2 forums?   Jun 7, 2010 - 1:16 AM
- - trdproven   ill check that out   Jun 7, 2010 - 10:26 AM


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