Oct 23, 2008 - 12:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '07 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
One of the few things that I dislike about my '99 Celica Convertible is that the gas mileage isn't as good as it could be. The 1997-2001 Camry, which had the same engine, got 3 mpg better on the highway with a 5-speed than my Celica does with a 5-speed, and the Camry weighed about 300 lbs more! I can only attribute this to the high revs of my Celica's 5th gear. So, my question is, can I achieve better fuel economy with a larger diameter wheel/tire combination? I know it would throw my speedometer off a bit, but to save fuel, it would be worth it to me. On that same note, what would would the tallest tire that I could put on a 16" rim and not suffer from any fender rubbing? What about a 17" rim? Thanks for your help!
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Oct 24, 2008 - 5:22 PM
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Wheel size alone can not be used as an indicator of weight. It all depends on the particular design, and there are better and worse ones out there. I would bet you can find 18" wheels with low profile tires that will weigh considerably less than the same overall height/width combo in a 15 or 16" wheel.
I am pretty sure you would gain fuel mileage with taller tires in a GT, (maybe not an ST) there is plenty of power available at highway speeds, I keep thinking I need another gear. But keep in mind- if you do change, it will throw your speedometer off so you may not be able to accurately calculate the actual gains. My own mileage has dropped from a constant 29.9 mpg average to 27.5 ever since Missouri forced ethanol on us. This is what happens when you get government involved in technical/economic stuff. If I am adding 10% ethanol to the fuel and my mileage drops by 10%, I am burning the EXACT SAME amount of gasoline + the ethanol, so what have we gained in carbon emissions or oil usage reductions except to now drive up the price of food also? |
Oct 24, 2008 - 6:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '07 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well said 97GTinKC, those are my feelings on the subject as well. Now, can anyone tell me how large of a wheel/tire diameter I can safely get into the wheel well of my Celica without any rubbing? It has not been lowered. I assume it would dependent on tire width. I will probably go with a 205 or 215 on a 16" rim. Any wider, and like people said earlier, it will negate any fuel savings.
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Oct 28, 2008 - 3:24 PM
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Well said 97GTinKC, those are my feelings on the subject as well. Now, can anyone tell me how large of a wheel/tire diameter I can safely get into the wheel well of my Celica without any rubbing? It has not been lowered. I assume it would dependent on tire width. I will probably go with a 205 or 215 on a 16" rim. Any wider, and like people said earlier, it will negate any fuel savings. 215 is totally fine, and probably a better choice than 205. You can go up to 225 I believe w/out any concern of rubbing, and I don't believe either one will affect mileage. I'm running 215/40R17 on a manual ST and get 30 mpg on average, that's with stop and go and highway combined. -------------------- ![]() |
joyworks Increasing Gas Mileage With Taller Tires? Oct 23, 2008 - 12:54 PM
playr158 you'd probably negate any savings by adding th... Oct 23, 2008 - 1:06 PM
samir0189 Ill have to agree with playr, tune it up. The 5sfe... Oct 23, 2008 - 1:27 PM
joyworks Actually, I already do all of those things. I am ... Oct 23, 2008 - 1:39 PM
D-Man QUOTE (joyworks @ Oct 23, 2008 - 1:3... Oct 23, 2008 - 4:32 PM
samir0189 I'm not a physics major, but I'm thinking ... Oct 23, 2008 - 2:06 PM
joyworks You really think that lifting the car a half inch ... Oct 23, 2008 - 2:42 PM
dgbldr No, no and no.
1. No, you can't attribute the... Oct 23, 2008 - 3:59 PM
DEATH QUOTE (dgbldr @ Oct 23, 2008 - 3:59 ... Oct 23, 2008 - 4:41 PM
playr158 QUOTE (dgbldr @ Oct 23, 2008 - 4:59 ... Oct 23, 2008 - 4:56 PM
samir0189 I really don't think that the rpm difference i... Oct 23, 2008 - 5:23 PM
GriffGirl Larger tires/increased height actually can decreas... Oct 23, 2008 - 5:39 PM
RickJamesBish It always pisses me off when my car is rated 27/34... Oct 23, 2008 - 5:57 PM
playr158 QUOTE (samir0189 @ Oct 23, 2008 - 6... Oct 23, 2008 - 6:35 PM
dgbldr QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 23, 2008 - 7:3... Oct 23, 2008 - 7:31 PM
samir0189 Lol. i did say i was not a physics major. I unders... Oct 23, 2008 - 6:48 PM
playr158 well you are correct still i suppose.
"In a... Oct 23, 2008 - 7:18 PM
samir0189 righttttt. So then, in theory the added weight of ... Oct 23, 2008 - 7:32 PM
joyworks Thank you all for your comments so far. But, let... Oct 23, 2008 - 8:43 PM
blu94gt QUOTE (joyworks @ Oct 23, 2008 - 8:4... Oct 23, 2008 - 10:24 PM
D-Man QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Oct 23, 2008 - 5... Oct 24, 2008 - 8:27 AM
RickJamesBish QUOTE (D-Man @ Oct 24, 2008 - 9... Oct 25, 2008 - 11:27 AM
GriffGirl QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Oct 25, 2008 - 9... Oct 28, 2008 - 3:21 PM
playr158 QUOTE (dgbldr @ Oct 23, 2008 - 8:31 ... Oct 24, 2008 - 8:28 AM
GriffGirl But it makes us tree hugging left wing liberals ou... Oct 24, 2008 - 5:32 PM
97GTinKC I'm going with 215/50-16 next time in place o... Oct 28, 2008 - 1:11 AM
alaNi touche what octane do you guys use? Oct 28, 2008 - 1:32 AM
playr158 QUOTE (97GTinKC @ Oct 24, 2008 - 6:2... Oct 28, 2008 - 6:10 AM
RickJamesBish Well, that's mad annoying...I'll just have... Oct 28, 2008 - 3:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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