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post Nov 5, 2008 - 1:47 PM
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OK so heres the deal I just got a 95 ST , I dont have to worrk about emissions were I live Im still decideing what do do with my car. I want to make only around 180hp at the crank, but im looking to have as little custom fab work and also trying to stay away from jdm parts that would be hard to get( possiblilydo a 7age na bulid?). I would most likely be dropping the trans and engine at the same time( I have to to a rebulid on the trans). ANY info or imput would be cool, especially aftermarket or piggy back ecu help.
 
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post Nov 5, 2008 - 4:05 PM
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QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 3:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 2:52 PM) *
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yeah but didnt the USDM AW11's come with 4A-GZE's
or am i wrong and they only came with 4A-GE's


yes, but some brackets and minor tweaks are needed, remember the MR2 has the engine on the back and the celi on front, the easiest way to do a 4agze swap is to get a 4agze from a levin and those are a little tough to get and usually pricier than MR2 4agze's

ok on that point then you could be the Levin/corolla gze and use aw11 parts corrects or the more differences then id like to know cause if so id like to build something like this.
sorry didnt mean to threadjack


the actual engine components are the same, the differences are on the outside of the engine, like alternator bracket, AC compressor location, the tranny has to be converted to FWD ( not a big deal, but has to be done ) the shifter linkage from the MR2 may not work so it'd have to be swapped for a levin one, and I think one of the water necks for a sensor has to be swapped as well. none of these is hard to do, is just getting the parts, so if you have to go through all these to get levin parts to make the MR2 swap work, or pay for custom parts, why not just get a levin engine to start off ?

again, some 7afe parts may solve these issues, but some will need custom work, also it all depends on the tranny you wanna use.


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post Nov 5, 2008 - 4:42 PM
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QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 5:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 3:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 2:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 3:34 PM) *
yeah but didnt the USDM AW11's come with 4A-GZE's
or am i wrong and they only came with 4A-GE's


yes, but some brackets and minor tweaks are needed, remember the MR2 has the engine on the back and the celi on front, the easiest way to do a 4agze swap is to get a 4agze from a levin and those are a little tough to get and usually pricier than MR2 4agze's

ok on that point then you could be the Levin/corolla gze and use aw11 parts corrects or the more differences then id like to know cause if so id like to build something like this.
sorry didnt mean to threadjack


the actual engine components are the same, the differences are on the outside of the engine, like alternator bracket, AC compressor location, the tranny has to be converted to FWD ( not a big deal, but has to be done ) the shifter linkage from the MR2 may not work so it'd have to be swapped for a levin one, and I think one of the water necks for a sensor has to be swapped as well. none of these is hard to do, is just getting the parts, so if you have to go through all these to get levin parts to make the MR2 swap work, or pay for custom parts, why not just get a levin engine to start off ?

again, some 7afe parts may solve these issues, but some will need custom work, also it all depends on the tranny you wanna use.

I can weigh in on the above bolded stuff cause I've assisted in a swap that went the other way [Levin to AW11 swap - FWD to mid engine RWD]. The bolded stuff must be done - IDK about the water neck stuff - don't remember having to do that but could just be something I wasn't involved in.
Another good source for info on this would be Darth Ripley [Another person who has done the opposite swap]
Hope this helps some.


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