Nov 26, 2008 - 10:41 AM
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hey guys, as you know, jim now has the 3rd gen 3s in his car, and after doing some research around various boards, he decided he wanted to try a 4" intake.
now, before you all go nuts, the guys down @ hux racing in florida claim HUGE gains with a 4" over a 3" intake, and have posted some results. here are a couple "copy paste" deals from mr2.com: QUOTE We always figured my street car made at least 280 rwhp. Until we dynoed it on our new Dynojet. The only mods are: our air intake mod 4", Blitz SBC boost controller, our 3" single tip exhaust, & boost cut defeated. 328 rwhp & 316 rwt This is on a maxed out ct20b, stock ecu, stock injectors, genIII fuel pump, & stock intercooler. This was attained using 100 octane. heres the dyno sheet: ![]() QUOTE The GenIII swaps we do I always push them to use our air intake mod since we have seen consistent results using that combo (4" K& N air filter, 4" inlet tube, custom coolant relocator hose). so, with that in mind, (and the fact that hux racing wants 400$ for somthing they wont even show you a picture of) we decided to give it a shot. since the inlet of the '20b is only 2.75" (yes, i know its a mm mesurement, but for all intents we all use a 2.75" reducer anyway..lol) we had to find a way to reduce the 4" pipe down to that. since we couldnt find anyone who makes a 4" to 2.75" reducer, and the fact that i thought it would be kinda flimsy, if we could find one, i headed over to burns stainless to see what they had. they carry 2 diffrent styles of "trumpets" (reducers) a longer style, and a shorter. so we got the 4" to 3" trumpet, and because of the limited room we have to work with, we chose the shorter style. heres a pic of what it looks like, with the coke can for size reference. ![]() ![]() once i got that in, and the coupler to mate the pipe to the turbo, i went out to the garage, and cut the pipe to set it up: ![]() thats the basic idea, i just need to weld a couple bungs for the IAC and catch can, and weld it up. im hoping we can get back to back dynos at some point real soon with a 3" intake vs this one, the only thing i need is a 4" k&n, or a 3" ebay special so the tests will be the same with no variables. if everything shakes down right, we could do this on both dustin, and jims cars, to get more results on diffrent cars, to see what kinda results we can truly get. discuss!! -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Dec 1, 2008 - 3:41 PM
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this is just like when we go to McDs and have a Coke, they now have those thick straws, try to drink the same Coke with a Sunny Ds pouch straw and you'll see why this mod will yield power gains.
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Dec 1, 2008 - 4:08 PM
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this is just like when we go to McDs and have a Coke, they now have those thick straws, try to drink the same Coke with a Sunny Ds pouch straw and you'll see why this mod will yield power gains. ok using that same logic if you took a fire hose and drank that same coke you wouldnt be getting that same amount down your throat |
Dec 1, 2008 - 4:28 PM
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this is just like when we go to McDs and have a Coke, they now have those thick straws, try to drink the same Coke with a Sunny Ds pouch straw and you'll see why this mod will yield power gains. ok using that same logic if you took a fire hose and drank that same coke you wouldnt be getting that same amount down your throat your throat dont spin at 130,000 rpm. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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presure2 4" intake on 3rd gen 3sgte Nov 26, 2008 - 10:41 AM
pipes I tried it after being @ ur house sounds cool only... Nov 26, 2008 - 11:12 AM
presure2 QUOTE (pipes @ Nov 26, 2008 - 11:12 ... Nov 26, 2008 - 12:10 PM
DEATH QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 26, 2008 - 9:4... Nov 26, 2008 - 11:28 AM
RUNNIN-LOW k..knowing that running 20psi with stock computer ... Nov 26, 2008 - 11:36 AM
_Jim_ QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Nov 26, 2008 - ... Nov 27, 2008 - 10:08 AM
presure2 yup, now that you say that, i actually have those ... Nov 26, 2008 - 11:37 AM
DEATH NP - glad to help. This also reinforces what I... Nov 26, 2008 - 11:42 AM
lagos It will be really interesting to see your dyno res... Nov 26, 2008 - 12:12 PM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Nov 26, 2008 - ... Nov 26, 2008 - 12:14 PM
RUNNIN-LOW QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 26, 2008 - 1:12 P... Nov 26, 2008 - 12:48 PM
lagos I don't think the 3rd gen electronics would be... Nov 26, 2008 - 12:57 PM
RUNNIN-LOW ok i know we are going off topic a little but real... Nov 26, 2008 - 1:16 PM
lagos Ill send you a pm so we dont go way offtopic here. Nov 26, 2008 - 1:28 PM
presure2 ok back on topic
here are a couple finished pics. Nov 26, 2008 - 3:17 PM
RUNNIN-LOW not bad pressure damn!!!your going to ... Nov 26, 2008 - 3:25 PM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Nov 26, 2008 - ... Nov 26, 2008 - 3:27 PM
RUNNIN-LOW stupid question but how come u didnt make it come ... Nov 26, 2008 - 3:34 PM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Nov 26, 2008 - ... Nov 26, 2008 - 3:42 PM
_Jim_ LOL, I didn't know getting rid of the battery ... Nov 26, 2008 - 3:47 PM
lagos The finished intake looks really good dude. Very b... Nov 26, 2008 - 5:18 PM
presure2 QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 26, 2008 - 5:18 P... Nov 26, 2008 - 10:28 PM
95st-celica looks good...very nice work..just curious as to wh... Nov 27, 2008 - 12:14 AM
presure2 QUOTE (95st-celica @ Nov 27, 2008 ... Nov 27, 2008 - 7:41 AM
DEATH QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 27, 2008 - 6:4... Nov 27, 2008 - 8:46 AM
presure2 QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 27, 2008 - 8:46 A... Nov 27, 2008 - 8:52 AM
_Jim_ Oh, and manny that would be a great idea to also i... Nov 27, 2008 - 10:17 AM
RUNNIN-LOW Ok let me clear it up with u jim maybe I just post... Nov 27, 2008 - 10:52 AM
_Jim_ o0o0o0o I know what you are talking about. No in ... Nov 27, 2008 - 11:35 AM
RUNNIN-LOW i just put the always assumed 280hp and compared i... Nov 27, 2008 - 1:01 PM
_Jim_ Well all the info I posted was on the first page o... Nov 27, 2008 - 2:23 PM
darthripley i'm interested to see the results, but i perso... Dec 1, 2008 - 3:27 PM
99GT QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 9:08 PM... Dec 1, 2008 - 4:28 PM
lagos QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Dec 1, 2008 - 3... Dec 1, 2008 - 4:33 PM
Culpable04 ^ that's correct, but just like when people pu... Dec 1, 2008 - 5:10 PM
_Jim_ Yes the 2.75 compressor opening is a "restric... Dec 1, 2008 - 6:21 PM
Cuts_the_Pilot Im sorry i dont see how there is going to be a pow... Dec 1, 2008 - 10:45 PM
lagos Jim, the theory that a vortex will create more pow... Dec 1, 2008 - 11:39 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:39 P... Dec 3, 2008 - 8:05 PM
dlx742 QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:39 P... Dec 2, 2008 - 6:49 AM
presure2 QUOTE since you are changing your filter going fro... Dec 2, 2008 - 11:04 AM
DEATH QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 2, 2008 - 10:0... Dec 2, 2008 - 11:24 AM
presure2 QUOTE (DEATH @ Dec 2, 2008 - 11:24 A... Dec 2, 2008 - 11:52 AM
1bwilson I wish dyno's around here were 60 a hour. Mine... Dec 2, 2008 - 2:30 PM
DEATH Damn - but that's with tuning tho right? Dec 2, 2008 - 2:33 PM
1bwilson Yes yes. Im hoping to get a call today about it be... Dec 2, 2008 - 2:39 PM
Terracar Curiousity has me intrigued - how does a dyno brea... Dec 3, 2008 - 2:46 PM
lagos QUOTE (Terracar @ Dec 3, 2008 - 2:46... Dec 3, 2008 - 3:07 PM
playr158 ^dynos can break cars. I've been at one when ... Dec 3, 2008 - 3:18 PM
dlx742 so i was thinking about why the 4'' intake... Dec 3, 2008 - 7:38 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (dlx742 @ Dec 3, 2008 - 7:38 P... Dec 3, 2008 - 8:11 PM
lagos QUOTE Not true, because the 2" outlet of the ... Dec 3, 2008 - 10:39 PM
Etak28 WOW that looks nice. i plan on doing something lik... Dec 3, 2008 - 10:56 PM
dlx742 QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 3, 2008 - 11:39 P... Dec 4, 2008 - 1:08 AM
Etak28 good ol' sig figs Dec 4, 2008 - 3:50 AM
x_itchy_b_x meh, i cant see this influencing flow as much as i... Dec 4, 2008 - 7:57 AM
Dr_Tweak I'm interested to see the results, I always wa... Dec 4, 2008 - 8:33 AM
presure2 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 4, 2008 - 8:33... Dec 4, 2008 - 9:02 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 4, 2008 - 9:02... Dec 4, 2008 - 6:30 PM
presure2 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 4, 2008 - 6:30... Dec 4, 2008 - 7:50 PM
Dr_Tweak Uh, yeah we daily-drive our cars in all weather to... Dec 5, 2008 - 8:44 AM
presure2 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 5, 2008 - 8:44... Dec 5, 2008 - 9:12 AM
Dr_Tweak To answer the question that you asked, the air byp... Dec 5, 2008 - 9:30 AM
presure2 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 5, 2008 - 9:30... Dec 5, 2008 - 10:07 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 5, 2008 - 10:0... Dec 5, 2008 - 10:32 AM
playr158 yes behind that foam is a nice little system which... Dec 5, 2008 - 10:33 AM
presure2 QUOTE ps: also there is very little point to runni... Dec 5, 2008 - 12:28 PM
99GT Any results? Dec 25, 2008 - 11:43 AM
Batman722 unfortunatly the dyno was cancelled that day. Dec 25, 2008 - 12:55 PM
CelicaGT04 QUOTE (Batman722 @ Dec 25, 2008 - 1... Dec 25, 2008 - 6:04 PM
_Jim_ We are trying, but of course the shop was "ch... Dec 25, 2008 - 8:27 PM
presure2 guys lets stay on topic, i split the disscussion a... Dec 27, 2008 - 8:09 AM
boosted95 not to bust anyones balls, but is it dyno time yet... Jan 17, 2009 - 1:12 PM
presure2 QUOTE (boosted95 @ Jan 17, 2009 - 1... Jan 17, 2009 - 1:19 PM
_Jim_ Dam Manny, you beat me before I could reply. Shan... Jan 17, 2009 - 1:24 PM
presure2 QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 17, 2009 - 1:24 P... Jan 17, 2009 - 1:54 PM![]() ![]() |
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