83 celica gt swap Options

[83gt]

Hey guys, Im a new member and I will be picking up a 83 celica gt in the next couple weeks, and id like to build it into a drift car, similar to a hachiroku. I want to swap in a 1jzgte or 7mgte. I know the main problem with these swaps is that the engine bay for the celica is 4 inches shorter than the old celica supras, but i have a friend that can do the modifications to the firewall so the engine will fit.

I have a couple other questions though.

1. Will the shifter sit farther back than the current one because the engine is longer? If so, will other modifications to the body need to be made because the shifter will sit farther back?

2. I know the chassis for the celica was not built to hold the larger I6 engine, how much fabrication will be needed to mount the engine?

3. I have heard that these engines may throw off the balance of the car, will suspension and strut bars add enough balance and rigidity?

4. I have never dealt with an engine swap before, so what does this mean as far as speedo gauges and such?

5. Has anyone heard of any other reasonable swaps for this car? (sr20? )

6. Lets say i wanted to do a rhd conversion also. Would both of these conversions need to be done at the same time?

Keep in mind that i have another car for my DD. This will be an ongoing project for me and some buddies. Also because this wont be my DD, i will be gutting the interior to make any necessary modifications. Im going to start from scratch basically. Once i get the car im gonna strip it down and clean it up and start from there. Should make for a fun project.

[ra65_22re]

Thanks a lot for your input guys. To Valo666, i dont mean to be stubborn and not consider your input but the problem with finding a older 20r motor and 22r head and LSD from the 4runner is sourcing the parts. Im sure it is nearly impossible to find any of these that arent beaten to death but ill do more research. If i do come across these parts, would they make enough power?

The 3sgte is now sounding like more of a possibility. They seem relatively cheap and can make solid power. It is also about the same weight as the stock motor. Also, i plan on taking as much out of the rear of the car as possible. Im sure it wont get it down to the weight of a ae86, but it should be close right? I know that the suspension will need to be upgraded, and im sure i will need to fabricate strut and sway bars to reduce body roll as i am sure there are none available. Will the 3s and suspension/body upgrades make for a decent drift car? If it does, trust me ill be practicing haha.

They will make a ton of torque, so it will be able to break your wheels loose without a problem. I mean guys are making crazy drag cars and rock crawlers with runnin a carbed 20R motor. As for weight, the 83 celica's curb weight was 2,566 lbs, AE86's curb weight for fully loaded model, 2075 lbs. Its not to say that you cant make these things crazy, but you can. There are some decently quick ones with 7Ms put in them, but it definatly throws the weight off. You could also go out and buy a rear end out of a MKII supra P-type with an LSD.

lol you'll make more power with a 20r head on a 22r motor. it will bump the engines compression. also if u want to get more power out of the 22r toyota made a turbo 22re or if its carb they have a dual side draft carb system out there that looks bad ass. there is an endless amount of parts for that motor you just have to know who to talk to. another thing is if you go with a bigger cam you will need a lot stronger valve springs. that 22r will last forever even with a lot of abuse.

also for the p-type lsd out of the celica supra of the sameyear. its only for the gts of celicas with the irs(independent rear suspension) and even than you need to take the whole rear end not just the pumpkin itself.