Dec 9, 2008 - 2:07 PM
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I am against it, I am sorry for the workers but if my boss pads his pocket
and makes dumb decisions, the company goes under. Thats life, make a profit or fail. -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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Dec 9, 2008 - 7:03 PM
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I am against it, I am sorry for the workers but if my boss pads his pocket and makes dumb decisions, the company goes under. Thats life, make a profit or fail. I'm totally against it too - it's a no win situation I think. Without the bailout hundreds and thousands of people would lose their jobs. That's bad times for the economy as a whole, not to mention how it affects those people personally. I'm not anti-union. Well, actually, I sort of am. I understand the benefits of having a union to ensure a safe and fair work environment. But some of the people working for the US automakers are making BANK as janitors, for example. What is BANK, you might ask? How about $52,000 a year plus benefits. That's the starting salary of a UAW janitor. http://www.uaw.org/contracts/03/gm/gm02.cfm I'm all for people making an honest living, and maybe I'm a socialist this way but I don't personally value one person over another by skill set. But this is ridiculous. $52k a year to mop the damn floor? This isn't a skilled trade! It's Labor Union BS, and it's costing people who have nothing to do with Detroit their jobs. Because US automakers are spending BILLIONS of dollars on wages and salaries that really don't warrant such a high salary, they can't make a damn car that's worth owning (a broad generalization). Money that could otherwise be spent on R&D, or just fcuking QUALITY CONTROL. Money that should've been spent LONG AGO on whatever is in their current "plan" on how to spend OUR TAX MONEY. I think the CEOs, if they're really committed to saving their businesses, should stop accepting salaries at all. Work the numbers and figure out how many of those asshats it takes to equal 25 billion dollars over say 5 years, and stop drawing a salary. And stop showing up in private jets to beg for money from congress. Fcuktards. -------------------- ![]() |
playr158 The automotive bailout Dec 9, 2008 - 2:07 PM
Supersprynt The only reason the bailout will happen is to save... Dec 9, 2008 - 2:14 PM
RUNNIN-LOW your right they are going to bail these guys out j... Dec 9, 2008 - 2:25 PM
RickJamesBish That's a decent point Super, but they've k... Dec 9, 2008 - 3:23 PM
jesterwr217 QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Dec 9, 2008 - 3... Dec 9, 2008 - 9:14 PM
Supersprynt They need to hire some Japanese consultants. Dec 9, 2008 - 4:18 PM
richee3 I think the bailout is ridiculous. Granted, I don... Dec 9, 2008 - 6:34 PM
njccmd2002 they need to invent better cars, it will take eons... Dec 9, 2008 - 6:54 PM
bseaman_5 Richee that is an excelent point.. It's sad to... Dec 9, 2008 - 7:03 PM
96bluevert If the domestic auto market can't start produc... Dec 9, 2008 - 7:13 PM
richee3 Now that my little rant is over, that picture WAS ... Dec 9, 2008 - 7:25 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 9, 2008 - 4:25 ... Dec 9, 2008 - 7:28 PM
x_itchy_b_x we need to break the Unions, just my stance. Dec 9, 2008 - 7:33 PM
richee3 QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Dec 9, 2008 - 7... Dec 9, 2008 - 8:23 PM
TheMadScientist QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Dec 9, 2008 - 5... Dec 27, 2008 - 3:49 AM
richee3 ^^^ But of course, in the government's eyes, t... Dec 9, 2008 - 9:40 PM
playr158 well if you work for the big 3...you are dumb if y... Dec 10, 2008 - 12:32 AM
TRD_Ian she is all going to hell, i live in canada and our... Dec 10, 2008 - 2:24 AM
CAMAricer Does anyone else realize where all this "bail... Dec 10, 2008 - 3:35 AM
playr158 QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Dec 10, 2008 - 3... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:17 AM
GriffGirl No no even better— we'll simply print more... Dec 10, 2008 - 8:16 PM
Spider77 You know its funny, we were talking about this sam... Dec 10, 2008 - 8:37 PM
Akirad1 i dunno but who ever has 401k check how much you h... Dec 10, 2008 - 8:43 PM
Spider77 Yeah, I know alot of guys who have something real ... Dec 10, 2008 - 8:52 PM
97celiman ahhhhh the right wing-ness is killing me...
so le... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:15 PM
CAMAricer Need...more...capitalization...and better punctuat... Dec 11, 2008 - 5:03 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Dec 11, 2008 - 2... Dec 12, 2008 - 7:53 PM
njccmd2002 long post... could not read...
we are trying to g... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:34 PM
Spider77 Wow, thats alot of text. Yeah I agree, blame the ... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:37 PM
garin The bailout is a stupid idea. The tax payers money... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:43 PM
jesterwr217 first of all the senario is unrealistic
no line wo... Dec 10, 2008 - 9:56 PM
samir0189 QUOTE (jesterwr217 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 9... Dec 10, 2008 - 10:13 PM
jesterwr217 QUOTE (samir0189 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10... Dec 10, 2008 - 10:17 PM
goferris I agree and disagree with that statement.
I'm ... Dec 10, 2008 - 10:38 PM
TRD_Ian ok so i have a few things, like before 40 to 45 ju... Dec 11, 2008 - 12:29 AM
97celiman QUOTE (Spider77 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10... Dec 11, 2008 - 12:52 AM
jesterwr217 QUOTE (97celiman @ Dec 11, 2008 - 12... Dec 11, 2008 - 4:50 AM
Culpable04 QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 8:43... Dec 11, 2008 - 1:05 AM
playr158 at the poverty line talk and income comparison. Dec 11, 2008 - 7:18 AM
Taskbot I think your country should take the bailout money... Dec 11, 2008 - 9:51 AM
Supersprynt The bailout was approved - Sweden did the same wit... Dec 11, 2008 - 10:27 AM
Taskbot QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 11, 2008 - 10... Dec 11, 2008 - 12:05 PM
playr158 they call it a bailout but its not. thats my probl... Dec 11, 2008 - 10:33 AM
Supersprynt Well - I'm not sure if they mean Saab & Vo... Dec 11, 2008 - 12:46 PM
Taskbot QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 11, 2008 - 12... Dec 11, 2008 - 2:13 PM
stephen_lee i just don't understand how such large compani... Dec 11, 2008 - 1:15 PM
playr158 QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 11, 2008 - 1... Dec 11, 2008 - 1:17 PM
Supersprynt Makes sense - those companies will be sold off any... Dec 11, 2008 - 2:15 PM
D-Man We'll be seeing Saab and Volvo on the "FE... Dec 11, 2008 - 4:22 PM
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whatsoever so no i dont like him at all b... Dec 11, 2008 - 5:03 PM
tonytutino oh well.
the bill died tonight. Dec 12, 2008 - 12:21 AM
stephen_lee so... no bail out? Dec 12, 2008 - 12:23 AM
creis yup the bail-out appears to be officualy dead due ... Dec 12, 2008 - 6:16 AM
97celiman yes i know i do this........ alot i really...hate.... Dec 14, 2008 - 8:39 PM
NgoFcukinWay So a buddy of mine was telling me today that since... Dec 15, 2008 - 12:03 AM
Cutrara Oh God... Where is Lee Iacocca when you need him? Dec 27, 2008 - 10:44 AM
Akirad1 well if ford styled the USDM cars like they do the... Dec 31, 2008 - 8:00 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Dec 31, 2008 - 9:00... Jan 2, 2009 - 3:26 AM
RickJamesBish I agree Akira, unless you're into pickups and ... Jan 2, 2009 - 10:44 AM![]() ![]() |
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