Dec 16, 2008 - 12:10 AM
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hey everyone, I've been reading up on the superstrut suspension lately and that got me asking myself why everyone has such a hard time with the axle's after a swap. Before, i just assumed that the st204 front suspension was just waaaaay too different from the superstrut setup (and it is), thus calling for hybrid length axle's. However, lots of st205 owners convert their superstrut to regular McPherson w/o any problems. So this kind of leads to the question of why exactly cant we use the gt4 axles if we are using a converted gt4 tranny? Does it indeed still have to do with the difference in length of the control/A arm between superstrut and udsm?
if thats the case, im imagining it would be possible copy what st205 owners do and replace the usdm suspension with a converted(i.e. superstrut converted to McPherson) superstrut setup. that way all of the axle business is done away with. This would be great since alot of front clips come with mostly intact suspension components anyway; not to mention one of toyota's criteria called for the superstrut setup using the same mounts as a conventional McPherson suspension, so it would be cake to install (I'm assuming) I hope I havent misunderstood anything and I'd like some input please This post has been edited by enderswift: Dec 16, 2008 - 12:11 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 16, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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the axles have nothing to do with the SS or McPh suspension, it's with the tranny.
QUOTE if we are using a converted gt4 tranny? who is using a converted GT-Four tranny ? usually when someone swaps and has FWD with their swap they either use a s54 (GT) tranny or a e153 (MR-2 turbo, V6 Camry, V6 Solara) tranny. Where the axles go into the st205 tranny (e154F) or the st185 (e150F IIRC) is completely different than with FWD trannys. here's a pic of an ST205 tranny ![]() and a pic of a GT tranny ![]() might not be the best pic but you can see the GT tranny is missing the entire rear section and the axles are much longer with the FWD trannys. You need longer axles with a swap, unless you use use the AWD tranny. -------------------- |
enderswift would like some clarification Dec 16, 2008 - 12:10 AM
97celiman this doesnt really contribute but does anyone have... Dec 16, 2008 - 12:32 AM
enderswift thats not what this is about. One of the more anno... Dec 16, 2008 - 12:44 AM
enderswift I knew about keeping the s54, but according to som... Dec 16, 2008 - 1:52 AM
Nial QUOTE (enderswift @ Dec 16, 2008 - 12... Dec 16, 2008 - 4:19 AM
presure2 no matter what e series tranny you use you will ne... Dec 16, 2008 - 5:49 AM
enderswift while I was reading about ss it mentioned how its ... Dec 16, 2008 - 2:10 PM
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enderswift hurley:
my original question was why people were... Dec 20, 2008 - 7:47 PM![]() ![]() |
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