Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
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So I was planning on doing another 5sfte set-up, but thought why not just go about doing a 5sgte set-up.
I don't plan on running an EMS anytime soon. Although down the road its obvious that I will have to. The plan is to buy a complete 3rd gen 3sge motor. Thats right a 3sge motor. The plan is to just take the head and all the electronics and TRY to sell the block. I already have turbo parts, minus the turbo. I will run with the 3sge ecu, but with the emanage ultimate. Injectors since the 3sge is side feed, I will probably go with 540s. Not sure what injectors the 3rd gen 3sge uses. I have been in contact with MCS and I will be probably be getting a crank that has already been turned down to accept the stock 3sgte rods I am using. The cost of their crank is 300, but I am in the process of shopping around to see if its cheaper to machine down the crank I have out of the 94 block. The plus side to MCS is the fact that they use 98+ cranks only. I will have the wiring harness converted for me by Doc. I did originally plan to build the bottom end with the following parts and get the 5sfe cams regrind from Geoff at Colt Cams for $400, oversized valves from a 2jz and do the head up. To be honest the machining is the thing that makes both plans pricey. I DO want to build a 5sfTe beast, but at the same time Just think of having a 5sgte. What do you guys think I should do. I'm going to be honest, I have been researching day and night for the past week. Not going to bed until 4AM and the first thing I do when I wake up is log onto the internet. Lets make this final and end my dilemma. -Will This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Feb 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Mar 1, 2009 - 11:35 AM
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you bought the 3S rods from that guy on MR2oc. i was going to get them also. i passed on it when i decided to stay stock
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
bccentaur3 Will's Project 5SGTE Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
b1gr3d QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 17, 2009 - 12... Feb 17, 2009 - 3:15 PM
bccentaur3 Have been talking to Eazy lately on mr2oc. On Garr... Feb 17, 2009 - 4:46 PM
b1gr3d from what i understand the bore and deck height on... Feb 18, 2009 - 1:14 AM
bccentaur3 I understand the difference between the 5sgte, 5sg... Feb 18, 2009 - 3:07 AM
b1gr3d you my friend are doing a 2.2 stroker then good ... Feb 18, 2009 - 11:14 AM
bccentaur3 Its not a stroker if I use the 5s block with the 3... Feb 18, 2009 - 12:37 PM
RUNNIN-LOW go for it ill help u put the motor together.. Feb 18, 2009 - 1:13 PM
bccentaur3 My mistake 3sge 3rd gen is top feed. Feb 18, 2009 - 3:03 PM
bccentaur3 So I went ahead and ordered a 3rd gen 3sgte head g... Feb 18, 2009 - 8:06 PM
bccentaur3 Should get the machined down crank in a couple of ... Feb 19, 2009 - 11:21 PM
scothaniel FYI - you can use Mitsubishi / DSM top feed inject... Feb 19, 2009 - 11:49 PM
bccentaur3 Ahh... I spent lots of time researching that. Sinc... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:00 AM
scothaniel I recall having problems with the 2nd gen timing b... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:23 AM
bccentaur3 Can't I use the gen 2 tensioner and idler pull... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:39 AM
bccentaur3 IIRC the tensioner pulley on the 3rd gen is the sa... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:45 AM
Terracar Well sounds like some have already corrected you o... Feb 20, 2009 - 9:46 AM
Muggs Terracar makes a good point, I think I mentioned t... Feb 20, 2009 - 11:03 AM
bccentaur3 Well, Terracar theres many people out there that r... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:12 PM
bccentaur3 Went to the machine shop today to see how much the... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:42 PM
Insan3 i got a quick question on the 5sgte, i know people... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:44 PM
bccentaur3 QUOTE (Insan3 @ Feb 20, 2009 - 3:44 ... Feb 20, 2009 - 6:01 PM
scothaniel You may want to wait for the HKS gasket. I remembe... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:48 PM
Insan3 okay thanks dude Feb 20, 2009 - 6:04 PM
bccentaur3 Following parts came in.
Still waiting on the... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:17 PM
scothaniel I wasn't able to get it shipped out over the w... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:32 PM
bccentaur3 Don't forget to give me your paypal so I can s... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:34 PM
bccentaur3 I got the 3rd gen turbo manifold in today. Feb 25, 2009 - 3:27 PM
bccentaur3 And my girl just brought the rods in. My parts go ... Feb 25, 2009 - 3:48 PM
presure2 yup, lube em up will, no problemo. Feb 25, 2009 - 3:55 PM
bccentaur3 Okay will do boss. Feb 25, 2009 - 4:15 PM
bccentaur3 look what came in today.
just waiting on head ... Feb 27, 2009 - 8:44 PM
bccentaur3 And the block I am working with.. Mar 1, 2009 - 1:22 AM
Dragondog i am gettin a beams and plan to turbo it im told n... Mar 1, 2009 - 1:30 AM
jeffrosie You can have the compression lowered by having the... Mar 1, 2009 - 5:38 AM
bccentaur3 I got it from Sang. Did he really post it on MR2OC... Mar 1, 2009 - 12:41 PM
Dragondog hey bcc im doing a swap myself but im getting alot... Mar 1, 2009 - 3:00 PM
bccentaur3 I really don't know much about the beams. I... Mar 1, 2009 - 3:33 PM
Dragondog ok well i have a t36 turbo and i suppose its too m... Mar 1, 2009 - 4:39 PM
bccentaur3 I honestly have never heard of a t36 turbo.
I can... Mar 1, 2009 - 6:24 PM
Dragondog ok well money im not worried nither time, diff yes... Mar 2, 2009 - 4:16 AM
bccentaur3 If you got a bunch of money and time, I say swap i... Mar 2, 2009 - 12:10 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks to Scott I got his used 3rd gen head gasket... Mar 2, 2009 - 5:22 PM
bccentaur3 Look what I picked up for $50.
I'll hav... Mar 4, 2009 - 10:54 PM
bccentaur3 SO me and a few MN 6gc members met up at our buddi... Mar 7, 2009 - 6:19 PM
Smaay i love these comparison pics. here are the differe... Mar 8, 2009 - 12:56 AM
bccentaur3 You have got to be joking me.. The 1zz rods are th... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:07 AM
Red_T_swiftcam This is gonna be really nice when it's all sai... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:07 AM
bccentaur3 Shot peened rods for 75? 75 a piece right? Not the... Mar 8, 2009 - 12:35 PM
Red_T_swiftcam 75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:34 PM
Red_T_swiftcam 75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:37 PM
Dragondog where can i get some good pistons and rods and rin... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:22 PM
bccentaur3 Shop around. I believe the 3sgte guys like the wis... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:58 PM
bccentaur3 so thanks to 1bwilson, he told me to update this t... Apr 22, 2009 - 9:01 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Will i feel your pain. MCS is telling me the same ... Apr 25, 2009 - 12:51 PM
bccentaur3 Hey guys, update on the project.
A couple of week... May 10, 2009 - 6:19 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks to the help of fellow MN 6th geners Zgear (... May 10, 2009 - 6:47 PM
presure2 good stuff will! May 11, 2009 - 7:16 AM
bccentaur3 Thanks Manny. May 11, 2009 - 7:23 AM
b1gr3d about those supra valves? are they the stock 2jz s... May 11, 2009 - 9:06 AM
bccentaur3 I don't think I can run 2jz valves on the 1st ... May 11, 2009 - 9:36 AM
crankyelbow so the 1st gen 3sgte head may be the most easy hea... May 11, 2009 - 8:02 PM
bccentaur3 hahaha you just said CHEAP. Nothing about this bui... May 11, 2009 - 8:21 PM
crankyelbow QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 9... May 11, 2009 - 8:26 PM
bccentaur3 Crank= 338
Pistons= 500
Rods= 50
Head with all sen... May 11, 2009 - 8:45 PM
crankyelbow QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 8... May 16, 2009 - 12:54 PM
bccentaur3 Pics from the work done today.
3sgte block
Loo... May 11, 2009 - 9:52 PM
bccentaur3 Got a little more work done. I got one cylinder do... May 12, 2009 - 9:37 PM
bccentaur3 So after hours of dremeling and thanks to my dad f... May 16, 2009 - 12:40 PM
bccentaur3 My crank came in a couple of days ago. And here sh... May 22, 2009 - 12:25 PM
RUNNIN-LOW nice!!! i gotta come check this out... May 22, 2009 - 12:55 PM
supershannon77 looking real good! Cant wait for more update... May 22, 2009 - 5:28 PM
Muggs Give us an update, Will! Is this thing going t... Jun 10, 2009 - 9:45 PM
Punch glad to see this project being done i got alot of... Aug 10, 2009 - 7:08 PM
Nartanian Wow, where have I been. I gotta see this in person... Aug 10, 2009 - 9:26 PM
bccentaur3 Update:
picked up a 1st gen 3sge intake manifold ... Aug 28, 2009 - 9:20 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Nice!!
Did you end up going to The shop i... Aug 28, 2009 - 10:16 PM
bccentaur3 yeah wayyy cheaper. He even remembered your name. Aug 28, 2009 - 10:53 PM
subspec good stuff. Aug 31, 2009 - 4:22 AM
playr158 WIll the work looks good, keep it up Aug 31, 2009 - 6:36 AM
Punch good job i got lots of parts pm me if u need somt... Sep 4, 2009 - 1:36 PM
bccentaur3 Specs of the rev 1 3sge cams
IN Open/Close 5/55
... Sep 6, 2009 - 10:06 PM
Nartanian Looking really good bro. Sep 6, 2009 - 10:11 PM
bccentaur3 FINALLY got my block sent to the machinist, becaus... Sep 18, 2009 - 10:24 PM
ZGear After all that abuse on your bike over the years..... Sep 20, 2009 - 12:40 AM
bccentaur3 Got my bearings in.
got them from raceeng.com. A... Sep 22, 2009 - 6:09 PM
boosted185 QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Sep 22, 2009 - 6... Sep 22, 2009 - 7:12 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks, I'll look into that. Sep 22, 2009 - 7:15 PM
bccentaur3 Well, it has just been a waiting game. I plastigau... Nov 29, 2009 - 2:24 PM
Mstoochn until i got my rpm down to about 700 i found i did... Nov 29, 2009 - 2:55 PM
bccentaur3 I swapped back to the st165 gte cams. I was using ... Nov 29, 2009 - 4:57 PM
bccentaur3 pic of engine bay. Excuse the dirtyness. Just want... Nov 29, 2009 - 6:03 PM
speed-CCNP Looks Great!! Dec 1, 2009 - 6:12 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Looking good Will. I want to see it in person! Nov 29, 2009 - 8:57 PM
99GT Blizzard Tuning. Dec 1, 2009 - 2:46 PM
whatthe Any updates on this build, its pretty dam impressi... Apr 17, 2010 - 11:32 AM
bccentaur3 No real update. I have a little over 2500 miles on... Apr 18, 2010 - 9:29 AM
mickwheelz honda ecu conversion?? Apr 27, 2010 - 6:52 PM
bccentaur3 yes sir.
List of parts
obdI honda ecu prefera... Apr 28, 2010 - 11:32 AM![]() ![]() |
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