2 Stage 3SGTE Swap thread, Stage 1.. almost done =) Options

[SlvrCelica09]

EDIT: 8/22/09
Ok guys before commenting just know my goal is 330 hp until all 2 stages is complete.. so keep that in mind when reading my setup:

95 toyota celica GT
ST205 3sgte swap
GT tranny and axles
Stage 3 clutch kit and flywheel(deciding between 2 I like)
EDIT: ST205 fuel pump
3 inch exhaust(already installed)
ST205 downpipe

Now in order to move on to stage 3 I need to figure out which engine I want.. parts for the 185(non RC) I have found to be relatively easy in case something breaks.. alot of sites have parts for the engine.. but it turns out the 185 wiring is harder than the 205.. im leaning towards the 205.. although i think finding parts for the engine is harder.. the swap should be a bit easier and at stock I would be right at my goal which is 250 hp running stock... i know for a fact there wont be an urge to raise booast levels since stage 2(AWD Conversion) of my swap would not be completed.. and this is my only car which i use for work and not for racing intentions.. 4 now.. lol

so basically I got 2 questions that have been killing me for a while now..
axles.. is it possible to mix and match GT tranny with 3sge axles.. if so that would be a delight but I highly doubt you can.. but im asking for clarification.. and 2.. what engine do you guys think I should go with.. 185 or 205?

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 26, 2009 - 6:32 PM

[SlvrCelica09]

yea sorry i meant traction with gear shifting.. i know WHP means wheel horsepower.. just wanted to make sure thats what ur getting and not just a number, do u mind explaining a bit what u meant by 1st gear being a waste.. bc I really dont want to buy an FWD tranny that wont have good traction past 300 WHP... which is why i just want to keep my tranny and leave the engine stock until I get the AWD.. i drove an sti in the rain once and it was great.. I would love to have AWD on my celica.. i may even decided to do that first..

[95st-celica]

yea sorry i meant traction with gear shifting.. i know WHP means wheel horsepower.. just wanted to make sure thats what ur getting and not just a number, do u mind explaining a bit what u meant by 1st gear being a waste.. bc I really dont want to buy an FWD tranny that wont have good traction past 300 WHP... which is why i just want to keep my tranny and leave the engine stock until I get the AWD.. i drove an sti in the rain once and it was great.. I would love to have AWD on my celica.. i may even decided to do that first..

bro, do you understand how hard it is to put AWD in your car? it doesnt just bolt up, it cost a lot of money, a lot of time, and a lot of parts. Of course it can be done, dont get me wrong, but if you think your gonna swap in a 3sgte, with awd just like that, its not going to happen. you will be looking at close to 10k and with that you should go out and buy a wrx. jim is saying 1st gear is a waste because these damn motors just have too much torque...there are ways to cut down on wheel spin, for instance, an e153 LSD trans, coilovers, sway bars and end links, and of course a real nice set of drag radials, but even still with 320+ horse your still gonna have a little bit of wheel spin....the transmission is not going to give you traction...its just putting the power to the ground that you need to worry about...an e153 transmission isnt going to give you more traction then a stock GT trans...yes you can go with the awd trans and do all that but now you are adding more weight (700+pounds more of weight we are talking about) you need a whole custom rear subframe, gas tank, rear diff, axles, driveshaft, so on and so forth.