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post May 27, 2009 - 2:14 PM
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Just curious what everyone's opinions on these are (FI application)

for a street driven car (low throttle driving) that also see's its share pf peppy driving (wot pulls) which is "better" and why?

blow off would be recirculated, and leaks not being considered, why would one choose a map system besides tunning capabilities?


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post May 28, 2009 - 3:05 PM
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none specifically - was in discussion

seems like for everyday and normal weekend car use a maf would be better suited ("low" tech maintenance). but for track use and the need for high end accuracy map shines a bit brighter (more high tech maintenance). i presume maf & a piggy back would get you descent times to keep one happy without breaking the bank on more advanced electonics

personally... everything ive ever had with maf has worked well enough for my likings. im just curious why most people scream out map as being faaaar more superior when it seems they are both about equal, just different approaches. maybe because they can have a loud vta bov easier without bogging between gears

another opinion for future reference (from jack)
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Well, the MAF has its issues, but I use a blowthrough setup that eliminates two of the complaints most people have about the maf, which is low airflow issues (idle problems) and misreads/disruption of airflow or blowoff valves/whatnot.

A properly tuned speed density system runs great, but the difference is a speed density system is a calculation, a MAF system is an accurate measurement (within reason)

I have been running a blowthrough FORD based MAF for over a year now, good drivability and no major idle issues that can't be resolved with some simple adjustments.

There is only one real downside to using an aftermarket MAF (besides a 90% ignorance of its existance) and that is on some types of hot-wire maf sensors, you can get some condensation on it when its cold, so it takes a bit longer for the wire to warm up and read correctly... THis seems more common on the GM sensor from the complaints I've heard.


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Posts in this topic
- jason   MAF vs MAP   May 27, 2009 - 2:14 PM
- - Fastbird   Actually your typical MAF based system is easier t...   May 27, 2009 - 2:33 PM
- - lagos   map   May 27, 2009 - 3:53 PM
- - presure2   fastbird pretty much hit the nail on the head.   May 27, 2009 - 5:09 PM
- - jason   got this elsewhere. all i know.. is that when i ha...   May 28, 2009 - 9:25 AM
- - Fastbird   Wild would be LOTS of boost essentially, cams, ect...   May 28, 2009 - 10:26 AM
- - jason   good stuff everyone seems to say that going map i...   May 28, 2009 - 10:49 AM
- - lagos   what car are you talking about?   May 28, 2009 - 1:53 PM
- - jason   none specifically - was in discussion seems like ...   May 28, 2009 - 3:05 PM
- - Fastbird   VERY easy to circumvent VTA BOV issues on a MAF ca...   May 28, 2009 - 3:22 PM
- - pittfirefighter   theres issues with the MAF sensor on the 3sgte goi...   May 28, 2009 - 6:34 PM
- - jason   ive read that what you said is contradictory maf ...   May 29, 2009 - 2:17 PM
- - lagos   I cant help to think that this is such a silly top...   May 29, 2009 - 2:32 PM
- - pittfirefighter   just on my 3sgte - the gate style MAF sensor... wh...   May 29, 2009 - 3:30 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 29, 2009 - ...   May 29, 2009 - 4:41 PM
- - pittfirefighter   yes i logged it on my AEM EMS but before my AEM UE...   May 29, 2009 - 5:46 PM
- - Fastbird   Art, this is far from a silly topic. This is gene...   May 29, 2009 - 6:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 29, 2009 - ...   May 29, 2009 - 11:01 PM
- - Fastbird   Art, I don't think anyone is saying that it...   May 30, 2009 - 12:02 AM
- - presure2   IMO basicly, the MAF is fine, 1st provided it is i...   May 30, 2009 - 6:59 AM
- - Fastbird   Unless you're like me and just want the unsigh...   May 30, 2009 - 7:07 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (presure2 @ May 30, 2009 - 7:5...   May 30, 2009 - 9:36 AM
- - Fastbird   QUOTE (lagos @ May 30, 2009 - 9:36 A...   May 30, 2009 - 6:52 PM


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