May 25, 2009 - 11:58 AM
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Hello!!! i read about the diferences, upgrades ++ about 2gen vs 3gen 3S-GTE`s but i didnt read anything about the 4Gen 3S-GTE. Anyones knows the diferences betwen those engines? what parts are the same, what performance parts cant be use on the 4gen?
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May 31, 2009 - 11:53 AM
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here are some more differences i keep laying around for such discussions....
-Adjustable cam gear (AEM, Fidanza, HKS, OBX, ATS). Any cam gear kit for 3SGTE will fit. -XS Power SSAC ST205 manifold/downpipe used with a ST205 turbo will convert the one-piece ST215 manifold/turbo to a nicely upgradeable ST205 Ct20b turbo kit. You can add to this a t3/t4 adaptor and you will be able to use a t3/t4 turbo (like I did on my ST215 swap) -Pistons, rods, crankshaft are all the same for ST205 and ST215 -The injectors are the same as the ST205 one, so, if there is a 3rd gen fuel system available, it will fit the ST215 too. -The exhaust camshaft is the same as the ST205 one. So an HKS 264/272 exhaust camshaft will bolt on. For the intake, I don't know if the HKS one would fit. Next year, when money will allow it, I'll buy a HKS264/264 camshaft kit and I'll know if the intake camshaft fit or not. -You can remove the top ATA intercooler and add a FMIC as easy as any other 3SGTE. The alternator can be replaced with one from any 5SFE or 3SGTE, along with the a/c compressor and the p/s pump (though the 4th gen p/s pump uses an electronic sending unit for the idle-up). Bear in mind that the 4th gen injectors are also high-impedance, and no resistor pack is used. -pistons -connecting rods -crankshaft -exhaust camshaft -cam gears -timing belt -water pump -Intake manifold (bolt pattern are the same) -fuel rail and injectors from ST215 are 540cc and top feed, so they have the same output rating as gen3, but they are top feed instead of side-feed(gen3) -exhaust manifold (same bolt pattern)(but the 4th gen exhaust manifold is casted with the turbine housing) -MAT sensor (manifold air temp) -MAP sensor -crank pulley -oil pans -oil pickup system -knock sensor -ac compressor -alternator -------------------- |
fran Gen 3 Vs Gen 4 May 25, 2009 - 11:58 AM
domyz 3rd gen intercooling(water to air) is by far bette... May 25, 2009 - 12:57 PM
Nial 4th gen has a higher compression ratio which makes... May 28, 2009 - 2:04 AM
reko 4th gens use coil pack = you'll have to run a ... May 30, 2009 - 1:38 PM
3WayStunna QUOTE (reko @ May 30, 2009 - 1:38 PM... May 30, 2009 - 3:48 PM
pitcelica QUOTE Anywho, to actually contribute to this threa... May 31, 2009 - 7:41 AM
3WayStunna I stand corrected May 31, 2009 - 9:15 AM
pitcelica QUOTE -The injectors are the same as the ST205 one... May 31, 2009 - 12:45 PM
Marchius One question - will 3rd gen engine gaskets fit to ... Oct 3, 2013 - 7:51 AM
easternpiro1 I wonder though... why did toyota go with differen... Oct 10, 2013 - 5:22 PM
Smaay are you sure about the high impedance injectors? e... Oct 10, 2013 - 10:45 PM
presure2 Yup, the 4th gen has high impedance injectors. Oct 12, 2013 - 10:15 AM
delusionz so does it bolt in with the same 3 bolts? sounds l... Oct 24, 2013 - 7:05 AM
match220 The alternator on the 4th gen is larger with a hig... Dec 15, 2013 - 7:59 AM
pitcelica QUOTE (match220 @ Dec 15, 2013 - 1:5... Dec 15, 2013 - 10:26 AM
match220 QUOTE (pitcelica @ Dec 15, 2013 - 5... Dec 15, 2013 - 10:51 AM
easternpiro1 Larger alternator? Im using one from the 5sfe.... Dec 20, 2013 - 7:09 PM
MR2fanatic We have alot of information on the gen4 3sgte alon... Jan 6, 2014 - 11:04 PM
JasonTX QUOTE (MR2fanatic @ Jan 7, 2014 - 12... Jan 7, 2014 - 1:49 AM
cardshark525 QUOTE (JasonTX @ Jan 7, 2014 - 1:49 ... Jan 7, 2014 - 9:09 AM
MR2fanatic Thanks for the feedback guys! Cardshark,how is... Jan 12, 2014 - 2:32 PM
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BonzaiCelica No not the whining fuel pump dont do it. I had it ... May 8, 2016 - 12:03 AM
ILoveMySilly97 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 7, 2016 - 10... May 9, 2016 - 5:58 PM![]() ![]() |
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