SC or TC., hmmm?? whats you think Options

[5sfeTurbo]

After reading the big topic on celica.net Im almost convinced on the supercharged 5s. "Go with the 3s blah blah blah". NO, anywho the rippmods sounds pretty awesome. Unlike the fabled 3s.. you get all NEW parts and direct plug and play. So if your even contemplating the do a swap reply, in your upper left hand hand corner of your screen is a "Back" button go ahead an press it. SC 5sfe at 190whp out of a box is pretty awesome.

[NEVERSTOP]

I have alot of experince with S/C and turbos and swaps... here is my view point on it...

S/C - 2-3k by the time your done.. not sure of the price for S/C setup talked about on this topic

Turbo set up - 1-2k approx

swap - 3-5k depending on prices of all parts and labor costs etc.. closer to 5k for most


Now we all know that I am for the swap but I am gonna take a non bias approach to this.

also keep in mind that I do not know alot about the 7a as I have never had a need to look into it.


3s will get you 200 or so HP stock.. thats with no mods and completely designed by toyota to run how its supposed to.

4a will get you 160-190ish depending on what version.. might be wrong but think that is the acturate hp range at stock and is designed to by toyota etc.

Turbo setup.. works but for how long?? that is an answer that isnt known yet it is still too new but there are alot of potential problems with mix and matching.

S/C setup - see turbo setup.


Now all of these will get you ruffly the same HP range considering that the swaps are still stock and the turbo + S/C setups have all the nessary mods done.


now a S/C will potentially drain the life of the motor.. same with an aftermarket turbo.

my G/F has a S/C civic. and it is on its 3rd motor - all due to the charger.. luckly she hasnt blown one its all been the people that owned it before but I have to do work on that car practiaclly every other weekend just to keep it runing right.

My mom has a bonivelle ssei that is charged and she has also had some problems with it but not neary as much as my G/F or other people I know with aftermarket S/Cers

also keep in mind that saying " it takes power to make power" this is in refrence to S/Cs

what that means is a S/C will give you a 20/30% increase in power.. that really isnt alot for the money you will spend. It also doesnt seem very praticaly on a 115-130hp vehicle. I can understand a 300-400+ vehicle seeing huge gains from a S/C

a turbo setup will yeild better results than a S/C but is more dangerous to your motor.. a N/A motor doesnt really stand up to well to boost... now I have heard that the 7a was originally ment for boost but toyota changed it last min and stuck a different head on the motor.. which I have also heard is the weakness of that motor. The 5a motor is not ment for boost and will see problems over the long term with it. You will also not be able to achive much over 7-8lbs of boost with out a rebuild.

now logic would tell you that a stock motor built for boost between the range of 12-14.. and will safely hold more, is the smarter option in the long run

I understand that the 3s or 4a swap is not for everyone.. and some of you cant do it period due to local laws and if that route you will need to look into other options, but do be advised that you will run into problems down the road with a turbo or s/c set up.

I personally think that the 7a would handle boost better than the 5a and the 5a should be ran as a N/A motor only.. which with enuf money could become a good motor with a decent amount of HP but it will take alot more money than most are willing to spend


now you are all free to do what you like to your cars.. drive them into the river for all I car.. but do be care and look into stuff before you jump in.