Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM
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thats alright QUOTE how would i go about modding my ACIS? rather than tell you how to mod it heres a way how not to mod it http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t...;highlight=ACIS (also I recommend a new thread for 3SGE ACIS/Beams discussion) I've been playing around with ACIS recently and I've discovered a few things about it, The basics ... when the vacuum diaphragm pulls the throttles, the larger diameter in the corner of the inlet pipes open up (under the lid) for high rpm and when there is no vacuum to pull the throttles are free to return to the constricted low rpm position. A few problems noted with ACIS: 1. When switching between high and low rpm modes, the vacuum diaphragm sometimes get stuck in the high rpm mode 2. The engage point is too late First experiment was to see how the car behaved with the throttle pull lever tied up with cable ties as to lock the throttles in the high rpm position, What I observed with the butt dyno was that under full throttle the rpm range where the car would "suddenly get up and go" was lower down, noticed in terms of road speed 65kph before, 55kph after (2nd gear) so in other words 5000-7000 was the get up and go range, without ACIS constriction in the intake the get up and go range was observed from 4000 to 7000. No loss in acceleration was noticed from idle to 3000 under part throttle, but loss was noticed under full throttle, between 3000 and 4000 I couldn't tell either way in neither part throttle nor full throttle whether ACIS was better in low rpm or high rpm mode.... This suggests to me that 4000 is a better changeover point than 4800 for performance. 4800 is an rpm not reached by normal driving due to speed limits & gear selection thus ACIS seems to exist for the purpose of keeping intake noise down at legal road speeds rather than for improving low rpm torque as midrange torque takes a hit with this setup. My proposed solution on how TO mod the ACIS, is to gutt the vacuum actuator system and replace it with a motorised cable pulling actuator triggered by a frequency switch relay at 4000 rpm the signal could be obtained by the ignitor right behind there. -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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Jun 13, 2009 - 2:01 AM
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this from Toyota: The 3rd Generation 3S-GE:
QUOTE The 3S-GE is an in-line 4 cylinder engine with the cylinders numbered 1-2-3-4 from the front. The cranshaft is supported by 5 bearings inside the crankcase. These bearings are made out of alumium alloy. The crankcase is integrated with 8 weights for balance. Oil holes are placed inthe centre of the crankshaft to supply oil to the connecting rods, pistons and other components. The ignition order is 1-3-4-2. The cylinder head is made of The intake manifold has 4 independent long ports and utilises the intertial supercharging effect to improve engine tourque at low and mudium speeds. Both the intake and the exhaust camshafts are driven by a single timing belt. The cam journal is supported at 5 places between the valve lifters of each cylinder and on the front end of the cylinder head. Lubrication of the cam journal and cams is accomplished by oil being supplied through the oil port in the centre of the camshaft. Adjusting of the valve clearance is done by means of an inner shim type system, in which valves adjusting shims are located below the valve lifters. To replace the shims, the camshafts must be be removed. Pistons are made of high temperature - resistant aluminum alloy, and a depression is built into the piston head to prevent interface with the valves. Piston pins are the full-floating type, with the pins fastened to neither the piston boss nor the connecting rod. Instead, snap rings are fitted on both end of the pins, preventing the pins from falling out. The No.1 compression ring is made of stainless steel and the No.2 compression ring is made of cast iron. The oil ring is made out of stainless steel. The outer diameter of each piston ring is slightly larger than the diameter of the piston and the flexibility of the rings allow the to hug the cylinder walls when they are mounted to the piston. Compression rings No.1 and No.2 work to prevent gas leakage from the cylinder and the oil ring works to scrape oil off the cylinder walls to prevent it from entering the combustion chambers. The cast iron cylinder block has 4 cylinders which are approximattly twice the length of the piston stroke. The top of each cylinder is closed off by the cylinder head and the lower end of the cylinders become the crankcase, in which the cranksaft is installed. In addition, the cylinder contains a wet jacket, through which coolant is pumped to cool the cylinders. The No.1 and No.2 oil pans are bolted onto the bottom of the cylinder block. The No.1 oil pan is made of alumimum alloy. The No.2 is an oil reservoir made of pressed steel. The dividing plate also prevents the oil from shifting away from the oil pump suction pipe when the vehicle is stopped suddenly. Maintance Oil change: takes 4.5L W/ oil filter change or 5.2L from Dry fill Compression 1,324 KPA (192psi +) Minimum 1,079KPA (156psi) more later -------------------- |
delusionz 3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM
Rusty ha sweet finally started a thread, I'd thought... Sep 14, 2008 - 12:57 AM
delusionz that is good information and makes things alot sim... Sep 14, 2008 - 6:38 AM
presure2 IMO the best way to find the "switching... Sep 14, 2008 - 9:08 AM
Rusty ah here's the information I was thinking of pr... Sep 19, 2008 - 1:28 AM
delusionz ACIS Modification project
------------------------... Sep 29, 2008 - 6:39 AM
Cuts_the_Pilot i say try another vid but go in a straight line, t... Sep 29, 2008 - 8:25 PM
Rusty QUOTE i say try another vid but go in a straight l... Sep 29, 2008 - 11:00 PM
delusionz yeah, i had the pedal pressed as hard as i could a... Sep 30, 2008 - 2:41 AM
parriehunter I am real interested in seeing two dyno runs with ... Sep 30, 2008 - 2:51 AM
Rusty well I got mine done at lodge auto for $60 bu... Oct 1, 2008 - 12:28 AM
delusionz Hmmm 4300 is very smooth to changeover, no jump in... Oct 1, 2008 - 5:14 AM
Rusty Right there has been some recent discussion lately... Jun 8, 2009 - 3:41 AM
3WayStunna I love games!! I take it the clean piston ... Jun 8, 2009 - 10:06 AM
DEATH My guess is the dometop ones on the left are BEAMs... Jun 8, 2009 - 10:27 AM
Rusty the dirty one is the gen 3, the clean one is a BEA... Jun 8, 2009 - 12:27 PM
DEATH LOL - If you call THOSE dirty pistons you should s... Jun 8, 2009 - 1:27 PM
Rusty something form wiki
QUOTE These are common to all... Jun 9, 2009 - 2:01 AM
Edophus QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 9, 2009 - 3:01 AM... Aug 13, 2009 - 2:49 PM
BonzaiCelica so it sounds as if most of internals from 3rd and ... Jun 9, 2009 - 11:59 AM
Rusty its also the increase in compression (from 10.3 to... Jun 9, 2009 - 12:45 PM
Rusty QUOTE Redtop Specifications
VVT-I = Variable Valv... Jun 10, 2009 - 3:01 AM
BonzaiCelica hey Rusty, you said that the 3rd gen 3sge has more... Jul 22, 2009 - 4:37 PM
azian_advanced not sure if there are any upgradeable camshafts fo... Jul 22, 2009 - 11:51 PM
Rusty what you not happy with the BEAMS power?:D
there a... Jul 23, 2009 - 1:49 AM
BonzaiCelica Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake manifold ... Jul 23, 2009 - 2:03 AM
Rusty QUOTE Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake man... Jul 23, 2009 - 6:40 PM
BonzaiCelica that the cams do not effect the vvt-i on the beams... Jul 24, 2009 - 1:21 AM
delusionz QUOTE 3.gen 3SGE M/T
In: 252deg, 9.8mm lift (timin... Aug 13, 2009 - 2:37 PM
2bcelica Found this - not sure if its already been found - ... Aug 15, 2009 - 8:18 AM
Edophus QUOTE (2bcelica @ Aug 15, 2009 - 9:1... Aug 15, 2009 - 8:33 AM
2bcelica QUOTE (Edophus @ Aug 15, 2009 - 2:33... Aug 15, 2009 - 8:38 AM
Rusty QUOTE thats not true, the gen 4 is not a gen4 type... Aug 16, 2009 - 2:39 AM
Edophus QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 16, 2009 - 3:39 A... Aug 16, 2009 - 6:13 AM
Rusty QUOTE yeah sorry i wasnt having a go at anyone, i... Aug 16, 2009 - 7:06 PM
Edophus QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 16, 2009 - 8:06 P... Aug 17, 2009 - 5:18 AM
delusionz Wonder if the GE would make a better head to swap ... Aug 16, 2009 - 3:50 AM
Cuts_the_Pilot QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 16, 2009 - 2... Aug 16, 2009 - 4:38 AM
Rusty yea i thought it'll be the same. right onto th... Aug 18, 2009 - 2:14 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 8, 2009 - 12:27 P... Aug 19, 2009 - 11:50 PM
BonzaiCelica not useful information Aug 20, 2009 - 12:13 AM
DimaGT4 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 20, 2009 - 12... Jun 30, 2012 - 4:19 AM
Rusty awesome, we have some good info coming in. I hope ... Aug 20, 2009 - 2:38 AM
BonzaiCelica Compression Test proof from JDM Online, Seems to b... Aug 21, 2009 - 1:08 AM
BonzaiCelica Gear Ratios for JDM S54:
3.285 * 4.176 = 2027.5 -... Sep 16, 2009 - 2:28 PM
BonzaiCelica pointless post mods please delete if possible Sep 25, 2010 - 5:51 PM
Tony-B It says
Compatibility Info
Toyota Celica ST202 (... Sep 25, 2010 - 6:54 PM
BonzaiCelica pointless post Sep 25, 2010 - 8:48 PM
njccmd2002 they dont, i have seen a thread in MR2 that compa... Sep 25, 2010 - 10:11 PM
Rusty Nope they dont.
QUOTE ("BonzaiCelica")... Sep 26, 2010 - 1:01 AM
Edophus QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 26, 2010 - 7:01 A... Sep 27, 2010 - 6:02 PM
BonzaiCelica yes you make a good point Rusty and I know you are... Sep 26, 2010 - 2:30 PM
njccmd2002 go custom.... build one from scratch..
go custom... Sep 26, 2010 - 6:14 PM
Tony-B I think Rusty has a point, maybe more gains to be ... Sep 27, 2010 - 4:15 PM
BonzaiCelica OK I'll take all these facts and suggestions i... Sep 27, 2010 - 10:42 PM
Rusty I seriously doubt powder coating is able to withst... Oct 7, 2010 - 7:16 PM
TRDGT4 or get them coated HPC Oct 7, 2010 - 9:29 PM
njccmd2002 vht high temp paint dont work. it flaked on mine.... Oct 9, 2010 - 2:54 PM
Rusty Over the past couple of months I have been searchi... Dec 3, 2010 - 6:41 PM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Rusty @ Dec 3, 2010 - 7:41 PM... Mar 29, 2014 - 12:25 PM
BonzaiCelica hmm wow 2 hp. that's like a air intake. So a t... Dec 4, 2010 - 5:50 PM
eazy2001x For those of you who are running ACIS you may want... Dec 10, 2010 - 1:08 PM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Edophus @ Sep 27, 2010 - 7:02... Jan 18, 2011 - 11:07 PM
Rusty QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 19, 2011 - 5... Jan 19, 2011 - 12:59 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Rusty @ Jan 19, 2011 - 12:59 ... Jan 19, 2011 - 1:18 AM
Rusty I read this awhile ago, but cant remember where I ... Feb 3, 2011 - 2:18 AM
BonzaiCelica I'm having a hard time believing delusionz. To... Jun 5, 2011 - 10:57 PM
Rusty from what I read from that
3 gen 3S-GE - limiter 7... Jun 6, 2011 - 1:42 AM
delusionz QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 6, 2011 - 6:42 PM... Jul 2, 2011 - 4:09 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 6, 2011 - 1:42 AM... Jun 6, 2011 - 1:57 AM
Rusty After my brother getting a 2ZZ-GE powered corolla ... Jul 2, 2011 - 3:20 AM
delusionz Btw good idea on the port work, however
smooth is... Jul 2, 2011 - 4:16 AM
BonzaiCelica on the 2zzge was the stock exhaust manifold and do... Jul 2, 2011 - 4:46 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Edophus @ Sep 27, 2010 - 7:02... Jul 2, 2011 - 4:49 AM
delusionz step down, means the pipe is bigger than the port ... Jul 2, 2011 - 5:29 AM
Rusty QUOTE smooth isnt best, rough is best. like the di... Jul 3, 2011 - 2:30 AM
KAOS Yay - glad I found this thread! W00t!
Ton... Oct 31, 2011 - 3:09 PM
richee3 Here are three articles concerning VVT-i- how it w... Dec 14, 2011 - 11:08 AM
richee3 I just learned a bit of information on the BEAMS. ... Jan 24, 2012 - 5:47 PM
ricochet1490 QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 24, 2012 - 6:47... Jan 24, 2012 - 6:32 PM
richee3 I did consider that. Greytop injectors should be 3... Jan 24, 2012 - 6:53 PM
richee3 Per Puretone, via mr2.co when I asked if the injec... Feb 9, 2012 - 6:50 AM
ricochet1490 Dan, check back with him. They are so new, maybe ... Apr 25, 2012 - 11:15 PM
BonzaiCelica this pictures is originally 3507 x 2480 but when I... May 9, 2012 - 10:59 PM
njccmd2002 ^^^ pay for a pro account.... lol May 10, 2012 - 1:40 AM
BonzaiCelica parts cross referenced for members in Europe and U... May 24, 2012 - 12:34 AM
KAOS QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 23, 2012 - 11... May 24, 2012 - 9:57 AM
3WayStunna QUOTE (KAOS @ May 24, 2012 - 9:57 AM... Jun 26, 2012 - 3:28 PM
Rusty QUOTE (Rusty)Seen below is a stock redtop 3sge exh... May 24, 2012 - 4:17 AM
delusionz QUOTE (Rusty @ May 24, 2012 - 9:17 P... Jun 30, 2012 - 4:55 PM
KAOS This thread is a goldmine. Great work, all! May 24, 2012 - 9:45 AM
BonzaiCelica speaking of porting and smoothing out the header, ... Jun 26, 2012 - 2:32 PM
BonzaiCelica how the helk would you port down the inside of the... Oct 18, 2012 - 6:11 PM
Rusty QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 19, 2012 - 12... Mar 29, 2014 - 5:29 PM
mi645 Someone needs to provide you with AIR TOOLS. Mar 29, 2014 - 2:17 PM
BonzaiCelica this is pic above is one member from beams forum. ... Mar 30, 2014 - 2:08 AM
mi645 deck spacer? and i have the imec ecu i was gonna t... Mar 30, 2014 - 3:07 AM
BonzaiCelica i was taking a look on Fujitsubo japan website for... Feb 7, 2016 - 5:04 AM
Smaay head design, valve size, engine design. just caus... Feb 7, 2016 - 1:53 PM![]() ![]() |
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