Aug 22, 2005 - 9:16 PM
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I changed the transmission fluid/oil in my 7afe recently and Manny (presure2) took some pics - thanks Manny
I was having some slight grinding going into 2nd gear in higher RPMs and I figured changing the tranny fluid would be a great idea. Since it has been changed, no more grinding tools needed : ratchet, 24mm socket, 3-4qts transmission fluid/oil, oil drain pan, jack/stands time : 30min - 1hr, depending on your mechanical skill level DO NOT attempt this when engine is hot, wait until the engine is very cool/cold. first you need to loosen this bolt (fill plug) with a ratchet and the 24mm socket ![]() bolt removed ![]() it is located here, it is facing the front of the car. The transmission is circled in yellow and the arrow is pointing to the bolt location ![]() the bolts are usually very tight and could be difficult to loosen next, jack up the front of the car (putting it on jack stands is always safer) and with the 24mm socket you need to loosen this bolt (drain plug) ![]() Remove drain plug. The drain plug is located directly under the transmission. You may need to remove some of the plastic under the engine for easier access. Be sure to put the oil drain pan under the bolt when removing because the old fluid/oil will be pouring out. now after the old oil has drained out (10 min later), replace the drain plug - make sure it is secure - and lower the car. My personal choice Pennzoil Synchromesh ![]() pour 3-4qrts of the Synchromesh into the fill plug hole (you might want to use a long funnel or pour/squeeze from the bottle into the hole) until full - it will start pouring back out. I used just less than 3qrts ![]() Once full, replace fill plug - make sure it is secure - and wipe up the excess that has spilt. Done. Notes : - be sure to dispose of old fluid/oil properly - according to the BGB - 7a transmission refill = 3.5qrts, 5s transmission refill = 2.6qrts - this procedure should be the same/similar for both 7afe and 5sfe -------------------- |
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Jun 21, 2009 - 4:52 PM
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I've been reading up about the right gearbox oil to put in my cars, and now I'm confused about what gearbox oil is right for which car.
The codes on my SS-III (Viscous LSD,FWD,Superstrut equipped) read - Trans/Axel S54 - 06D & the codes on my GT-Four read E154F - 08B Anyhow, after reading this ... I can't figure out whether any of this applies to my cars & What does he mean GT4 gearbox has no LSD, 185 or all including 205? QUOTE Gearbox Oil Selection There are many many different grades of gearbox and differential oil. Toyota recommends GL-5 for the gearbox in all GT-Four models. Many disagree, but it is vital that a GL-5 is used, with good reason! Some use auto trans fluid with good results, it is now specified for most fwd Toyotas. I have tried a few different gearbox oils in my eight years of ownership. The oil my ST165 came with was unknown so I changed to Pennzoil 75W-90 semi-synthetic. Despite this oil working very well in the W55 gearbox in my Celica Supra, it was not very good in the GT-Four, resulting in a notchy gearchange. When my RC gearbox was fitted they used a Castrol oil. I assume this was Castrol Syntrac, as they suckered me NZ$35 a litre!! Despite the gearbox having just been rebuilt, the gearchange was crap! Very notchy. I (again) changed to Redline oil, which at NZ$20 a litre was pretty reasonable. The correct oil to use in a GT-Four is 75W-90NS. This is the right viscosity rating, is a GL-5 oil and does not have friction modifiers for a LSD. The GT-Four gearbox does NOT have a limited slip diff in it! The viscous centre diff is a sealed unit and therefore unaffected by oil selection. This made a noticeable improvement to gearchange and was well worth doing. GL-5 oil is mandatory in a GT-Four gearbox. As the excess traction of 4wd does not allow wheelspin the extra load is taken by the ring and pinion (the highest stressed parts in the gearbox). As a result of the high loads the contact surfaces of the teeth are known to wear prematurely. This was evident in my RC gearbox, which despite having new synchros had noticeable wear. We can only presume that the gearbox wore due to high mileage causing a poor gearchange. The owner used GL-4 oil to improve the gearchange, which increased ring and pinion wear. It was then rebuilt soon before I bought it. Hence use GL-5 or you will regret it. That said, my RC gearbox was eventually replaced with a normal ST185 gearbox when the clutch failed. The gearchange in my RC box had deteriorated and I could trade the box over for only a $100 or so so I did so. I ran the new gearbox on ATF and the gearchange was excellent, who knows about the longativity though! -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Batman722 DIY - changing your transmission fluid/oil Aug 22, 2005 - 9:16 PM
defgeph Awesome work guy, I added to the sticky.
Now go t... Aug 22, 2005 - 9:44 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Awesome job you guys. I've still been too laz... Aug 22, 2005 - 9:44 PM
slvrblt To make refilling the transmission eaiser, go to a... Nov 4, 2005 - 10:05 PM
TTE Its best oil for manual transmission. I tried it o... Nov 5, 2005 - 9:29 AM
blu94gt so on the 5sfe, the fill hole is pointed slightly ... Nov 5, 2005 - 1:12 PM
Supersprynt Did you drain it first? If you open the fill hole ... Nov 5, 2005 - 1:18 PM
blu94gt QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Nov 5, 2005 - 1:18 PM)Did... Nov 5, 2005 - 1:20 PM
defgeph Make sure you fill the tranny with all four tires ... Nov 5, 2005 - 1:20 PM
blu94gt QUOTE(defgeph @ Nov 5, 2005 - 1:20 PM)Make su... Nov 5, 2005 - 1:36 PM
alltracman78 There are 2 reasons to have fluid come out of the ... Aug 26, 2006 - 11:52 AM
Supersprynt What I usually do is get a funnel with a tube. Nov 5, 2005 - 1:54 PM
Phat_99CeliGT i gotta do mine soon.
i use Redline though. i use... Nov 6, 2005 - 12:49 PM
blu94gt I just used Coastal gear oil, it was all they had ... Nov 6, 2005 - 7:25 PM
lagos synchromesh owns all. ive been recomending it to e... Nov 6, 2005 - 7:42 PM
Starcraftjunkie I'm thinking about changing to synchromesh as ... Nov 24, 2005 - 5:04 PM
trdevelopment im gettin ready to do this also im going to use lu... Nov 24, 2005 - 5:13 PM
lagos your going to need a funnel with a long hose to do... Nov 24, 2005 - 5:24 PM
Cutrara I just did mine, and WOW! What a difference, e... Nov 25, 2005 - 12:04 PM
Batman722 glad things worked out for you Alex
there is a... Nov 25, 2005 - 1:12 PM
Predator damnit, seems to be much harder to change on the 3... Nov 25, 2005 - 1:35 PM
Batman722 QUOTE(Predator @ Nov 25, 2005 - 1:35... Nov 25, 2005 - 2:30 PM
Predator QUOTE(Batman722 @ Nov 25, 2005 - 2:3... Nov 25, 2005 - 3:35 PM
DJWashington Nice wright up, seems to have been a big topic lat... Nov 25, 2005 - 4:24 PM
eyohannie I tried to do it but I couldn't get that fill ... Nov 25, 2005 - 11:07 PM
blu94gt QUOTE(eyohannie @ Nov 25, 2005 - 10... Nov 26, 2005 - 1:04 AM
Cutrara Try putting some WD-40 on there and letting it soa... Nov 25, 2005 - 11:43 PM
Batman722 QUOTE(Cutrara @ Nov 25, 2005 - 11:43... Nov 26, 2005 - 12:05 AM
Batman722 QUOTE(eyohannie @ Nov 25, 2005 - 11... Nov 26, 2005 - 1:21 AM
eyohannie hmmm... okay then, i will try it again next week a... Nov 26, 2005 - 1:34 AM
lagos use a long braker bar, and make sure you are using... Nov 26, 2005 - 3:34 PM
Dunners I changed mine yesterday with some semi synthetic ... Nov 27, 2005 - 4:59 AM
Batman722 I had first changed mine and used Mobil1 synthetic... Nov 27, 2005 - 10:40 AM
zipstrips redline MTL or HD shockproof is the best tranny fl... Nov 27, 2005 - 11:09 AM
Dunners While we're on the topic, What is the differen... Nov 28, 2005 - 1:41 AM
Batman722 QUOTE(Dunners @ Nov 28, 2005 - 1:41 ... Nov 28, 2005 - 1:45 AM
Negative QUOTE(Batman722 @ Nov 28, 2005 - 6:4... Feb 26, 2007 - 2:58 PM
MaX makes plans to do this next weekend
it'll be... May 1, 2006 - 3:11 AM
Jeremy1210 man, I never saw this before for some reason... I ... May 1, 2006 - 8:12 AM
blu94gt QUOTE(Jeremy1210 @ May 1, 2006 - 8:1... May 2, 2006 - 12:52 AM
Cutrara 30k? I used a cheap brand about 5k miles ago, I th... May 2, 2006 - 7:58 PM
eggman40 I pour my fluid in from the top of the tranny whil... May 2, 2006 - 8:13 PM
Bitter i'd like to state one think. oils should ALWAY... May 3, 2006 - 2:17 AM
DeW_H0e_GT sorry for bring in this thread back to life..but..... May 18, 2006 - 1:47 PM
pure_dx *slaps* dew_hoe_gt
you're welcome, and yes, t... May 18, 2006 - 9:36 PM
Steevo I have tried a few fluids.
ATF works best from ... Jul 24, 2006 - 8:31 PM
Mynzeyes QUOTE(Steevo @ Jul 24, 2006 - 8:31 P... Aug 29, 2006 - 12:38 PM
tomazws nice tutorial! Jul 24, 2006 - 8:34 PM
Batman722 QUOTE(Steevo @ Jul 24, 2006 - 9:31 P... Jul 24, 2006 - 9:32 PM
StaticKnotX Cant get the damn fill hole off. Its chewed up a b... Aug 28, 2006 - 7:23 PM
Steevo Using a cold chisel make a indent in the side of t... Aug 28, 2006 - 7:52 PM
Bitter alot of manual transmissons use ATF as well. i kn... Aug 29, 2006 - 1:38 PM
Mynzeyes I'm about 99% that the Celica's specs call... Aug 29, 2006 - 1:43 PM
Bitter QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Aug 29, 2006 - 1:43... Aug 29, 2006 - 1:46 PM
Mynzeyes QUOTE(Bitter @ Aug 29, 2006 - 1:46 P... Aug 29, 2006 - 2:39 PM
Steevo As a fact the shear stability of the ATF in use wa... Aug 30, 2006 - 9:38 AM
tonytutino man this pissed me off so much, i found the first ... Aug 31, 2006 - 8:15 PM
tomazws QUOTE(tonytutino @ Aug 31, 2006 - 5... Mar 5, 2007 - 12:42 PM
97lestyousay It sure is nice to get a list of tools needed for ... Jan 6, 2007 - 3:35 PM
Batman722 Randy, did you change the fluid on the Celica or t... Jan 7, 2007 - 12:28 AM
97lestyousay QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 6, 2007 - 9:28... Jan 7, 2007 - 3:28 PM
malecrod Did mine today with synchromesh, pretty straightfo... May 28, 2007 - 6:21 PM
94yoter i did mine with syncromesh today and it made a hum... Jul 8, 2007 - 8:47 PM
GotToyota I'd like to do my tranny fluid soon, as far as... Jul 30, 2008 - 12:06 AM
devilsden97 QUOTE (GotToyota @ Jul 30, 2008 - 1... Jul 30, 2008 - 11:39 AM
GotToyota LOL, I know what ATF is. I just know some manual t... Jul 30, 2008 - 11:06 PM
brthrurik you can mix atf in with gear oil, that's what ... Jul 30, 2008 - 11:18 PM
Batman722 QUOTE (brthrurik @ Jul 31, 2008 - 12... Jul 30, 2008 - 11:35 PM
GotToyota I think I'm just going to buy the Royal Purple... Jul 31, 2008 - 7:30 AM
devilsden97 QUOTE (GotToyota @ Jul 31, 2008 - 8... Jul 31, 2008 - 8:42 AM
Bricy Ive done mine with Synchromesh and it shifted like... Jul 31, 2008 - 8:53 AM
GotToyota QUOTE (Bricy @ Jul 31, 2008 - 8:53 A... Jul 31, 2008 - 9:02 AM
GotToyota http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtf.aspx
Anyone ... Aug 3, 2008 - 5:42 PM
trdproven How would you fill the ATF? My dipstick says cool... Oct 16, 2008 - 6:34 AM
jordisonjr I can't seem to find the filler bolt on my 5sf... Jun 5, 2009 - 7:21 PM
Projek_01 the fillter bolt is the side facing the front of y... Jun 5, 2009 - 7:33 PM
BonzaiCelica i used some motul 75w-90. cost me $30 for 3 l... Jun 6, 2009 - 3:27 PM
BonzaiCelica bump (w/e that means) can anybody answer my questi... Jun 17, 2009 - 5:19 PM
blu94gt delusionz:
While I've never worked on a GT-4 ... Jun 21, 2009 - 7:31 PM
delusionz Thanks alot for clearing that up for me blu94gt Jun 21, 2009 - 8:35 PM
BonzaiCelica hmm only 3sge with vvt-i has helical lsd right?
a... Jun 22, 2009 - 1:04 AM
ksporry So how many liters for the 3S-GE tranny?
I have to... Jun 22, 2009 - 6:41 AM
delusionz 3S-GE & 5S-FE use the same transmission, albei... Jun 22, 2009 - 5:38 PM
e30og so when I change the fluid do I need to go through... Sep 25, 2010 - 4:20 PM
BonzaiCelica oh WOW! my gear were grinding when I was heel ... Oct 27, 2010 - 3:53 AM
thespacepanda Bringing this back from the dead, cuz I'm dead... Nov 11, 2010 - 11:15 PM![]() ![]() |
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