5SFTE Powered 94 celica runs 13.6@108MPH!!, WOOT Options

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made it out to New England Dragway today, and got a good handfull of runs in, and managed 2 good runs.
the first good run i bogged a tiny bit off the line, cut a crappy 2.2 60ft time, and ran 13.8 @ 106.

my next run, i reved a little more at the line, and still cut a crappy 2.2 60ft time.
i got thru the shifts pretty cleanly, and managed to run 13.6 @ 108MPH!
that crappy 60ft time, and the 108MPH trap tells me there is still ALOT left in the setup as it is, we just need to dial the car in a little more, and REALLY work on the driving.

feeling great, i was psyched for my next run, hit it alittle harder at the line, but totally missed the shift to 2nd.
when i finally did get it into 2nd, at the top of the gear i felt/heard somthing a little odd, that i had felt from time to time since the last dyno when i got on it really hard occasionally. by the time i got to the end of the track, i realized the battery light was on, so i pulled off, and poped the hood. to my amazement, i popped the alternator belt!
so, we decided to chance it and try and make it as close to home as we could. (its a 2hr ride each way)
we got about 1/2 way, ended up getting stuck in boston traffic, and i stalled the car trying to pedal it in traffic.
we had AAA tow us the rest of the way, and had my cousin pick us up a new alternator belt, and drop it off at the garage.

WOOT, what a day.

i am on the right, #885

[Fastbird]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

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Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

[Fastbird]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

Ah my bad, I can't see anything front work. Ok, so DR's are on there, gotcha. Shifting 4 times is just a fact of life. VERY few cars get to run out third at the top end.

Some thigs to consider to help the launch -- a stutter box if once can be adapted to the 3S (or a MSD with a two step) for building boost on the line and actually launching with positive pressure. Hard on the drivetrain but great on the short times.

Something else to try would be instead of hold a consistent RPM to launch try timing it to where at the 2nd or midpoint between the 1st and 2nd yellow to do a quick rev to launch. A fast sudden rev will build some pressure before it can bleed off as opposed to holding a consistent launch RPM.

How much tire pressure were you running and what kind of RPM were you launching at?? HOW were you launching (fast slip, drop, ect)??

Just some pointers and thoughts for getting that short time down.

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Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

Ah my bad, I can't see anything front work. Ok, so DR's are on there, gotcha. Shifting 4 times is just a fact of life. VERY few cars get to run out third at the top end.

Some thigs to consider to help the launch -- a stutter box if once can be adapted to the 3S (or a MSD with a two step) for building boost on the line and actually launching with positive pressure. Hard on the drivetrain but great on the short times.

Something else to try would be instead of hold a consistent RPM to launch try timing it to where at the 2nd or midpoint between the 1st and 2nd yellow to do a quick rev to launch. A fast sudden rev will build some pressure before it can bleed off as opposed to holding a consistent launch RPM.

How much tire pressure were you running and what kind of RPM were you launching at?? HOW were you launching (fast slip, drop, ect)??

Just some pointers and thoughts for getting that short time down.

dude, I'm shifting into 5th at the end of that run...that SUUUUCCCKKs. the E153 guys should be able to hit the finish line still in 3rd.
the emanage ultimate can do the 2 step. im kinda afraid to set it up while still on the stock pistons, i've heard it is harsh on the ringlands..lol
yea, my best run was on a nice blip of the throttle just before the last yellow light and kinda dropping the clutch.
i tried launching holding it @ ~2800-3k, and it bogged off the line..so i reved it up more, prolly to ~38-3900 or so, and wheel hopped 1st.
just a matter of getting more runs under my belt i think, im still very much a beginner when it comes to racing.
i had ~20psi in the fronts, ~45 in the rear.
any tips are welcome man, like i said, im still a beginner at this, and if my experiences can help the other guys on the site go faster, im all for it.
we really need to get the ET's on these cars down to a respectable level, and i think all of us as a community can accomplish that goal if we all pool our experiences, and get out there and RACE!

[DEATH]

we really need to get the ET's on these cars down to a respectable level, and i think all of us as a community can accomplish that goal if we all pool our experiences, and get out there and RACE!

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P I think your right in the zone there man as far as launch RPMs but it's been a while since I drove 5S. Your numbers are very similar to my own but you got a much better R/T than me and my average 60' is a lil lower. Both of us should be running low 13's/high 12's with our setups.
I'll try to get back to the track ASAP and see if I can add anything to this discussion [plus get some vids of my own]

Can't you put the E153 on the 5s?

Yes of course

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jul 23, 2009 - 1:10 PM