Jul 26, 2009 - 1:48 PM
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I Have a 1994 Toyota Celica ST 1.8L 7A-FE
I recently had a Magnaflow "catback" installed. I was looking into getting headers when i came across something interesting. I saw that in order for the headers to give you car the extra power, you need to have a high flow catalytic converter. I am not sure if this is true, but i believe it is because the extra flow, from the headers would be slowed by the restrictive stock cat? am i correct? (the cat back is not restricted any more, with my new magnaflow exhaust system) And if this is correct, would these two things match up? The cat i am looking at ( http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/mfcatsearch...catmodel=CELICA ) !*The first direct fit one*! The headers i am looking at ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...alenotsupported ) Are headers worth it? do i need the new cat? would it be better? with the new cat, is it worth it at all? ive never seen the difference, but im assuming alot of you have, so any one with any info, please give me some answers. thanks!- -------------------- |
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Jul 28, 2009 - 2:42 PM
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actually, in the best motorcycle aftermarket systems, the full exhaust system is titanium, specifically for the reason that I'm mentioning, people trying to pull every little bit of power out of it as they can. And I'm more of a motorcycle guy, so I've seen more aftermarket bike headers than car ones, sorry for that assumption carrying over into aftermarket car headers
I won't disagree with you that most systems are stainless, anyone can see that, this is probably because stainless is cheaper to manufacture than the other systems and it's also more viable for the buyer since that makes it about $500 cheaper, and most buyers don't know the thermodynamics behind an exhaust system anyway, they just buy what looks better. With the drag headers, I can understand them being stainless instead of something else because the full exhaust system on a dragster is 3 feet long (ish), so the exhaust doesn't have long enough to cool down. However on a car, you have 10 - 12 feet of exhaust, and if that is all stainless you WILL release heat, and lose performance in a street car setup. I don't care what most people sell, this is science, and in the end, science prevails (except with evolution -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
mgnt232 Headers make a difference? Jul 26, 2009 - 1:48 PM
Mstoochn the cat is great, but ebay haeders you gota be car... Jul 26, 2009 - 1:53 PM
match220 headers do make a difference in more areas than so... Jul 27, 2009 - 2:26 AM
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Mstoochn QUOTE (match220 @ Jul 28, 2009 - 2:1... Jul 28, 2009 - 2:29 PM
Mstoochn uh, hes not buying an exhaust system, hes alrdy go... Jul 27, 2009 - 3:49 AM
k-weaver Getting a Header is totally worth it, I have one o... Jul 27, 2009 - 10:57 PM
match220 I hope you aren't getting angry with my rebutt... Jul 28, 2009 - 3:50 PM
presure2 QUOTE (match220 @ Jul 28, 2009 - 3:5... Jul 28, 2009 - 4:18 PM
match220 Titanium GSXR exhaust
IF it were mass produced fo... Jul 28, 2009 - 4:57 PM
Spider77 QUOTE (match220 @ Jul 28, 2009 - 5:5... Jul 28, 2009 - 5:00 PM
95CelicaST Ummmmm 11 grand is $11,000.
Eleven hundred i... Jul 28, 2009 - 5:08 PM
Mstoochn QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 28, 2009 - 6... Jul 28, 2009 - 5:11 PM
Spider77 Yeah, you know what, your right. I can still thin... Jul 28, 2009 - 5:14 PM
mgnt232 QUOTE (mgnt232 @ Jul 26, 2009 - 1:48... Jul 28, 2009 - 10:25 PM
Random_Stranger Here's a stupid n00b question. I noticed when... Jul 29, 2009 - 1:33 AM![]() ![]() |
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