3SGTE Valve Buckets / Shimless Conversion, I "think" I figured it out finally.... Options

[qatar11]

So I have been trying for the past ooooh 4 months at this point to find the shimless buckets I need for my 3rd GEN 3SGTE. I ordered a bucket from a 1ZZ to insure a good fit and that the range of shims would work for my machined head.

the bucket didn't fit... far to small - its completely different size then my existing buckets. I poked around today - visited my Toy dealer, and this board, and the 1ZZ motor has buckets and the 2ZZ has shims so I didn't order the wrong bucket.

so I have two conclusions - they ordered the wrong Bucket (possible) OR the bucket size from the 2nd gen 3SGTE is different then the 3rd GEN 3SGTE. I don't know why it hadn't come to me before... I do have a old 2nd gen 3SGTE kicking around so I will unpack it and have a peek.


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Cheers

[mikaelhoglund]

Hello!
The 2zz shims work great, both for the 3s-gte engines and the Supra engines as well. You have to messure the thicknes of the bucket incl shim to know what thicknes the new shimless buckets need to be... Me myself are going for the convension this winter. and it never is any problem.

[Smaay]

Hello!
The 2zz shims work great, both for the 3s-gte engines and the Supra engines as well. You have to messure the thicknes of the bucket incl shim to know what thicknes the new shimless buckets need to be... Me myself are going for the convension this winter. and it never is any problem.

1ZZ, not 2ZZ. the 2ZZ uses a tiny cap that goes over the top of the valve. the 1ZZ uses a bucket that coveres the spring. and yes you can use the 1ZZ buckets in 3S-GTE, 2JZ-GTE, 5S-FE, 1MZ-FE.

[mikaelhoglund]

Hello!
The 2zz shims work great, both for the 3s-gte engines and the Supra engines as well. You have to messure the thicknes of the bucket incl shim to know what thicknes the new shimless buckets need to be... Me myself are going for the convension this winter. and it never is any problem.

1ZZ, not 2ZZ. the 2ZZ uses a tiny cap that goes over the top of the valve. the 1ZZ uses a bucket that coveres the spring. and yes you can use the 1ZZ buckets in 3S-GTE, 2JZ-GTE, 5S-FE, 1MZ-FE.

The problem i hade this spring was that after the engineshop hade made new valveseals the valves came to
high up. The problem for me was then that the shims that you can buy from toyota wasnt thin enough. This problem was solved by removing the valves and them have the top of the valve machined down 0,2mm than there were no problem using the right shims from toyota.
Maby this will help...!