The engine's in 7th and 6th gen Celica, Why did they change?? Options

[BonzaiCelica]

So i was thinking the other day of the difference between the motor's in the 6th gen and 7th gen celica's. The 3sge engine was a very potential motor with 3rd gen producing 177 hp 142 lb torque, 4th gen "Redtop Beams" 197hp 152 lb torque and the 5th gen "Blacktop" found in the Altezza producing 207 hp and 159 lb's torque. I would say those a pretty impressive numbers.

Honda has had their vtec since the nsx first came out in the early 90's and they have been improving ever since. So why did toyota decide to go with a 1zz-ge and 2zz-ge engine for the celica. I mean the displacement went down in .2 liters. The 1.8 ltr 2zz engine came with vvtl-i to compete with honda's vtec? In the US, the celica only produced a 180 hp and in japan it produced 190 hp. Then there was the trd celica which produced 194 hp. Still that wasnt even enough to touch the Integra type r B18c5 motor which produced 195 hp and had around the same torque as the 7th.

So why didnt toyota stick with the 3sge. They could have produced an 2 ltr engine that had around 215 hp with vvt-i on the intake and exhaust manifold just like the 3sge blacktop.

[Tony-B]

Putting a 3S-GTE in a 7th gen would make it slower?? Not too sure about that mucker. Search for the fensport GT-4x.

[Smaay]

Putting a 3S-GTE in a 7th gen would make it slower?? Not too sure about that mucker. Search for the fensport GT-4x.

you cant count the fensport celica. that car had upteen thousand invested in it.

back to what i was saying, you put in a 200HP 3S-GTE in a 7th gen and it will be slower. you guys think the 3S is so great. yes its great by what its capable of, but in stock trim, its not that powerful of an engine. and it weighs a freaking ton! the entire 2ZZ long block weighs about the same as a stripped 3S block. so when you get power to weight ratio involved, yes its going to make the car slower. also the E153 weighs about 30 lbs more than the C60, so there is another weight addtion.

there are enough mods out there to make a 2ZZ plenty powerful enough now. it will cost over 6000 to install a 3S-GTE including the engine and tranny. then there are mods needed to make it faster. where simple turbo kits are available for the 2ZZ for less than 4000 with management. its simple math