Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
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So I was planning on doing another 5sfte set-up, but thought why not just go about doing a 5sgte set-up.
I don't plan on running an EMS anytime soon. Although down the road its obvious that I will have to. The plan is to buy a complete 3rd gen 3sge motor. Thats right a 3sge motor. The plan is to just take the head and all the electronics and TRY to sell the block. I already have turbo parts, minus the turbo. I will run with the 3sge ecu, but with the emanage ultimate. Injectors since the 3sge is side feed, I will probably go with 540s. Not sure what injectors the 3rd gen 3sge uses. I have been in contact with MCS and I will be probably be getting a crank that has already been turned down to accept the stock 3sgte rods I am using. The cost of their crank is 300, but I am in the process of shopping around to see if its cheaper to machine down the crank I have out of the 94 block. The plus side to MCS is the fact that they use 98+ cranks only. I will have the wiring harness converted for me by Doc. I did originally plan to build the bottom end with the following parts and get the 5sfe cams regrind from Geoff at Colt Cams for $400, oversized valves from a 2jz and do the head up. To be honest the machining is the thing that makes both plans pricey. I DO want to build a 5sfTe beast, but at the same time Just think of having a 5sgte. What do you guys think I should do. I'm going to be honest, I have been researching day and night for the past week. Not going to bed until 4AM and the first thing I do when I wake up is log onto the internet. Lets make this final and end my dilemma. -Will This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Feb 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Aug 31, 2009 - 4:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
good stuff.
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1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
bccentaur3 Will's Project 5SGTE Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
b1gr3d QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 17, 2009 - 12... Feb 17, 2009 - 3:15 PM
bccentaur3 Have been talking to Eazy lately on mr2oc. On Garr... Feb 17, 2009 - 4:46 PM
b1gr3d from what i understand the bore and deck height on... Feb 18, 2009 - 1:14 AM
bccentaur3 I understand the difference between the 5sgte, 5sg... Feb 18, 2009 - 3:07 AM
b1gr3d you my friend are doing a 2.2 stroker then good ... Feb 18, 2009 - 11:14 AM
bccentaur3 Its not a stroker if I use the 5s block with the 3... Feb 18, 2009 - 12:37 PM
RUNNIN-LOW go for it ill help u put the motor together.. Feb 18, 2009 - 1:13 PM
bccentaur3 My mistake 3sge 3rd gen is top feed. Feb 18, 2009 - 3:03 PM
bccentaur3 So I went ahead and ordered a 3rd gen 3sgte head g... Feb 18, 2009 - 8:06 PM
bccentaur3 Should get the machined down crank in a couple of ... Feb 19, 2009 - 11:21 PM
scothaniel FYI - you can use Mitsubishi / DSM top feed inject... Feb 19, 2009 - 11:49 PM
bccentaur3 Ahh... I spent lots of time researching that. Sinc... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:00 AM
scothaniel I recall having problems with the 2nd gen timing b... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:23 AM
bccentaur3 Can't I use the gen 2 tensioner and idler pull... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:39 AM
bccentaur3 IIRC the tensioner pulley on the 3rd gen is the sa... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:45 AM
Terracar Well sounds like some have already corrected you o... Feb 20, 2009 - 9:46 AM
Muggs Terracar makes a good point, I think I mentioned t... Feb 20, 2009 - 11:03 AM
bccentaur3 Well, Terracar theres many people out there that r... Feb 20, 2009 - 12:12 PM
bccentaur3 Went to the machine shop today to see how much the... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:42 PM
Insan3 i got a quick question on the 5sgte, i know people... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:44 PM
bccentaur3 QUOTE (Insan3 @ Feb 20, 2009 - 3:44 ... Feb 20, 2009 - 6:01 PM
scothaniel You may want to wait for the HKS gasket. I remembe... Feb 20, 2009 - 4:48 PM
Insan3 okay thanks dude Feb 20, 2009 - 6:04 PM
bccentaur3 Following parts came in.
Still waiting on the... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:17 PM
scothaniel I wasn't able to get it shipped out over the w... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:32 PM
bccentaur3 Don't forget to give me your paypal so I can s... Feb 24, 2009 - 5:34 PM
bccentaur3 I got the 3rd gen turbo manifold in today. Feb 25, 2009 - 3:27 PM
bccentaur3 And my girl just brought the rods in. My parts go ... Feb 25, 2009 - 3:48 PM
presure2 yup, lube em up will, no problemo. Feb 25, 2009 - 3:55 PM
bccentaur3 Okay will do boss. Feb 25, 2009 - 4:15 PM
bccentaur3 look what came in today.
just waiting on head ... Feb 27, 2009 - 8:44 PM
bccentaur3 And the block I am working with.. Mar 1, 2009 - 1:22 AM
Dragondog i am gettin a beams and plan to turbo it im told n... Mar 1, 2009 - 1:30 AM
jeffrosie You can have the compression lowered by having the... Mar 1, 2009 - 5:38 AM
Smaay you bought the 3S rods from that guy on MR2oc. i w... Mar 1, 2009 - 11:35 AM
bccentaur3 I got it from Sang. Did he really post it on MR2OC... Mar 1, 2009 - 12:41 PM
Dragondog hey bcc im doing a swap myself but im getting alot... Mar 1, 2009 - 3:00 PM
bccentaur3 I really don't know much about the beams. I... Mar 1, 2009 - 3:33 PM
Dragondog ok well i have a t36 turbo and i suppose its too m... Mar 1, 2009 - 4:39 PM
bccentaur3 I honestly have never heard of a t36 turbo.
I can... Mar 1, 2009 - 6:24 PM
Dragondog ok well money im not worried nither time, diff yes... Mar 2, 2009 - 4:16 AM
bccentaur3 If you got a bunch of money and time, I say swap i... Mar 2, 2009 - 12:10 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks to Scott I got his used 3rd gen head gasket... Mar 2, 2009 - 5:22 PM
bccentaur3 Look what I picked up for $50.
I'll hav... Mar 4, 2009 - 10:54 PM
bccentaur3 SO me and a few MN 6gc members met up at our buddi... Mar 7, 2009 - 6:19 PM
Smaay i love these comparison pics. here are the differe... Mar 8, 2009 - 12:56 AM
bccentaur3 You have got to be joking me.. The 1zz rods are th... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:07 AM
Red_T_swiftcam This is gonna be really nice when it's all sai... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:07 AM
bccentaur3 Shot peened rods for 75? 75 a piece right? Not the... Mar 8, 2009 - 12:35 PM
Red_T_swiftcam 75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:34 PM
Red_T_swiftcam 75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m... Mar 8, 2009 - 1:37 PM
Dragondog where can i get some good pistons and rods and rin... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:22 PM
bccentaur3 Shop around. I believe the 3sgte guys like the wis... Mar 8, 2009 - 9:58 PM
bccentaur3 so thanks to 1bwilson, he told me to update this t... Apr 22, 2009 - 9:01 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Will i feel your pain. MCS is telling me the same ... Apr 25, 2009 - 12:51 PM
bccentaur3 Hey guys, update on the project.
A couple of week... May 10, 2009 - 6:19 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks to the help of fellow MN 6th geners Zgear (... May 10, 2009 - 6:47 PM
presure2 good stuff will! May 11, 2009 - 7:16 AM
bccentaur3 Thanks Manny. May 11, 2009 - 7:23 AM
b1gr3d about those supra valves? are they the stock 2jz s... May 11, 2009 - 9:06 AM
bccentaur3 I don't think I can run 2jz valves on the 1st ... May 11, 2009 - 9:36 AM
crankyelbow so the 1st gen 3sgte head may be the most easy hea... May 11, 2009 - 8:02 PM
bccentaur3 hahaha you just said CHEAP. Nothing about this bui... May 11, 2009 - 8:21 PM
crankyelbow QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 9... May 11, 2009 - 8:26 PM
bccentaur3 Crank= 338
Pistons= 500
Rods= 50
Head with all sen... May 11, 2009 - 8:45 PM
crankyelbow QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 8... May 16, 2009 - 12:54 PM
bccentaur3 Pics from the work done today.
3sgte block
Loo... May 11, 2009 - 9:52 PM
bccentaur3 Got a little more work done. I got one cylinder do... May 12, 2009 - 9:37 PM
bccentaur3 So after hours of dremeling and thanks to my dad f... May 16, 2009 - 12:40 PM
bccentaur3 My crank came in a couple of days ago. And here sh... May 22, 2009 - 12:25 PM
RUNNIN-LOW nice!!! i gotta come check this out... May 22, 2009 - 12:55 PM
supershannon77 looking real good! Cant wait for more update... May 22, 2009 - 5:28 PM
Muggs Give us an update, Will! Is this thing going t... Jun 10, 2009 - 9:45 PM
Punch glad to see this project being done i got alot of... Aug 10, 2009 - 7:08 PM
Nartanian Wow, where have I been. I gotta see this in person... Aug 10, 2009 - 9:26 PM
bccentaur3 Update:
picked up a 1st gen 3sge intake manifold ... Aug 28, 2009 - 9:20 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Nice!!
Did you end up going to The shop i... Aug 28, 2009 - 10:16 PM
bccentaur3 yeah wayyy cheaper. He even remembered your name. Aug 28, 2009 - 10:53 PM
playr158 WIll the work looks good, keep it up Aug 31, 2009 - 6:36 AM
Punch good job i got lots of parts pm me if u need somt... Sep 4, 2009 - 1:36 PM
bccentaur3 Specs of the rev 1 3sge cams
IN Open/Close 5/55
... Sep 6, 2009 - 10:06 PM
Nartanian Looking really good bro. Sep 6, 2009 - 10:11 PM
bccentaur3 FINALLY got my block sent to the machinist, becaus... Sep 18, 2009 - 10:24 PM
ZGear After all that abuse on your bike over the years..... Sep 20, 2009 - 12:40 AM
bccentaur3 Got my bearings in.
got them from raceeng.com. A... Sep 22, 2009 - 6:09 PM
boosted185 QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Sep 22, 2009 - 6... Sep 22, 2009 - 7:12 PM
bccentaur3 Thanks, I'll look into that. Sep 22, 2009 - 7:15 PM
bccentaur3 Well, it has just been a waiting game. I plastigau... Nov 29, 2009 - 2:24 PM
Mstoochn until i got my rpm down to about 700 i found i did... Nov 29, 2009 - 2:55 PM
bccentaur3 I swapped back to the st165 gte cams. I was using ... Nov 29, 2009 - 4:57 PM
bccentaur3 pic of engine bay. Excuse the dirtyness. Just want... Nov 29, 2009 - 6:03 PM
speed-CCNP Looks Great!! Dec 1, 2009 - 6:12 PM
Red_T_swiftcam Looking good Will. I want to see it in person! Nov 29, 2009 - 8:57 PM
99GT Blizzard Tuning. Dec 1, 2009 - 2:46 PM
whatthe Any updates on this build, its pretty dam impressi... Apr 17, 2010 - 11:32 AM
bccentaur3 No real update. I have a little over 2500 miles on... Apr 18, 2010 - 9:29 AM
mickwheelz honda ecu conversion?? Apr 27, 2010 - 6:52 PM
bccentaur3 yes sir.
List of parts
obdI honda ecu prefera... Apr 28, 2010 - 11:32 AM![]() ![]() |
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