Oct 4, 2009 - 10:06 AM
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Hey Guys just looking for some info on a combination of head and block.
Where I'm from we have a few cars with 4afe/4agze running between 13 and 14 seconds on the dragg strip which I find verry cool. So, I was wondering if my 7afe with automatic transmision can be swapped with the following: 4a (black/silver top) 20 valve head on my 7a block and a manual transmission. 1. Can I first swap the head only and leave the auto tranny? 2. With some modifications like changing sparkplug, intake, injectors, tranny etc (except turbo and nos) would I be able to run between 13/14 seconds on the dragg strip? 3. Would this conbination cost a lot of money? 4. Is the combination of 4a head on 7a block called frankenstine? Just looking for some ideas, appreciate the help. THX!!! |
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Oct 4, 2009 - 1:44 PM
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And there might be an all motor 4A that runs a 14.5, but not a Celica. It comes down to power/weight ratio. I'm sure a 4A put in a go kart can hit insane 1/4 mile times, but only because of the power/weight ratio being really high.
A 130WHP 4AGE (silvertop, for closest power example) in a 2800lb Celica (I'm being awfully generous. This would require a bit of weight reduction) has a power to weight ratio of .0464, which might be better than a stock 7AFE Celica, but the same motor in a 2300lb (curb weight, per OEM specs) AE86 Corolla has a power to weight ratio of .0565, which doesn't look like much change, but it's actually quite a bit. The closer that number is to 1, the faster you're going to be. Take another example - a Lotus Exige. Same 2ZZ-GE motor from the 7th gen GTS, only the Lotus weighs in around 600lbs less. This is why a 180hp 1.8l all motor car can keep up with much bigger, higher HP cars. Like a 350Z. On paper the 350Z is faster, due to higher HP, but in reality it's power to weight ratio is substantially less, making it slower. Lotus Exige - .0906 Nissan 350Z - .0638 So in a long winded answer - it doesn't matter what others pull on the strip with the same motor. You're heavier than them, so you will be slower. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Oct 5, 2009 - 5:02 PM
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2800lb Celica (I'm being awfully generous. This would require a bit of weight reduction) I know my motor's different, but why? Mine weighs 2409. -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Dennisj1 4a Head on 7a Block???! Oct 4, 2009 - 10:06 AM
95CelicaST Use the search function and look on Google for a 7... Oct 4, 2009 - 11:35 AM
97lestyousay 4k
A fraction of the cost to build.
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Dennisj1 Thaks for the info guys. I'm not an expert so ... Oct 4, 2009 - 12:20 PM
97lestyousay ems is a n engine management system ECU standalon... Oct 4, 2009 - 12:45 PM
Dennisj1 lots of info!!! THX!!!... Oct 4, 2009 - 1:11 PM
97lestyousay QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 4, 2009 - 11... Oct 4, 2009 - 2:01 PM
95CelicaST I was going by manufacturer info. It's much ea... Oct 4, 2009 - 2:12 PM
97lestyousay QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 4, 2009 - 12... Oct 4, 2009 - 2:32 PM
95CelicaST QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Oct 4, 2009 - 12... Oct 4, 2009 - 2:57 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 4, 2009 - 7... Oct 4, 2009 - 7:58 PM
Dennisj1 DAMN YOU GUYS DO HAVE A LOT OF INFO!!... Oct 5, 2009 - 4:56 PM
nik if you wanna drag get a different car Oct 5, 2009 - 5:20 PM
95CelicaST Factors like fluid levels, junk in the car, sunroo... Oct 5, 2009 - 5:22 PM
SwissFerdi QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 5, 2009 - 6... Oct 5, 2009 - 6:41 PM
nik if you still wanna do this 7ag turbo or na
use t... Oct 5, 2009 - 5:26 PM
97lestyousay Generally the ae86 is about 2200-2400lbs the celic... Oct 6, 2009 - 1:18 AM![]() ![]() |
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