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post Oct 5, 2009 - 9:32 AM
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So we ran about half the race without the rear hatch to save weight and I'm not sure whether or not it helped... some of my thoughts:


- Should we really be chopping weight out of the back of a FF at this point (already stripped interior)?
- Do we ever go fast enough to have compromised aerodynamics as a result of removing the rear hatch?

Anyway - just some thoughts


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post Oct 7, 2009 - 6:24 PM
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We are starting to scope creep here some...

remember, 24 Hours of Lemons - that means no shiny CF. Thats a one way first class ticket to the crusher.


The car:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcoury/RaceCar#


The battery at the moment is basically where the passenger seat used to be - this was just for wiring purposes and running out of time.

The car has brand new KYB shocks and Vogtland springs. ST165 Calipers and rotors up front, EBC Red stuff for pads. 15" steelies with Michellin Pilots

The car handled VERY, VERY well I was just curious about the negative effects of rear hatch removal - specifically did it increase the understeer we seemed to have developed by the end of the race. And the lifter blocks, while cool, are not practical... no one is taking a turn at 90 MPH to see if they work... so.. there is that


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It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
post Oct 7, 2009 - 7:16 PM
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QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 7, 2009 - 7:24 PM) *
We are starting to scope creep here some...

remember, 24 Hours of Lemons - that means no shiny CF. Thats a one way first class ticket to the crusher.


The car:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcoury/RaceCar#


The battery at the moment is basically where the passenger seat used to be - this was just for wiring purposes and running out of time.

The car has brand new KYB shocks and Vogtland springs. ST165 Calipers and rotors up front, EBC Red stuff for pads. 15" steelies with Michellin Pilots

The car handled VERY, VERY well I was just curious about the negative effects of rear hatch removal - specifically did it increase the understeer we seemed to have developed by the end of the race. And the lifter blocks, while cool, are not practical... no one is taking a turn at 90 MPH to see if they work... so.. there is that




I see, I was not aware this was a Lemons build. In that case, just give the front end some speed holes, attach a huge 2x4 wing on the rear and call it a day.


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Posts in this topic
- qatar11   Pros and Cons of Running w/o Rar Hatch   Oct 5, 2009 - 9:32 AM
- - Ruroniarc   Less weight = go faster (technically) regardless o...   Oct 5, 2009 - 10:31 AM
- - qatar11   right - I agree with the less weight ... but at th...   Oct 5, 2009 - 10:52 AM
- - Harold_Fastwaker   Taking weight out of just the rear will make the c...   Oct 6, 2009 - 4:22 PM
- - Hanyo   it really depends on the coarse. If your are rac...   Oct 7, 2009 - 2:30 AM
- - qatar11   We were on a very fast course - 2 mile course aver...   Oct 7, 2009 - 8:03 AM
- - Culpable04   you'll lose traction as the chassis will flex ...   Oct 7, 2009 - 9:07 AM
- - Harold_Fastwaker   Well, you would be better off running an actual wi...   Oct 7, 2009 - 3:24 PM
- - SwissFerdi   A little off-topic, but isn't the car already ...   Oct 7, 2009 - 3:32 PM
|- - Harold_Fastwaker   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Oct 7, 2009 - 4...   Oct 7, 2009 - 3:55 PM
- - SwissFerdi   That's pretty terrible. Does anyone know how m...   Oct 7, 2009 - 4:27 PM
|- - Harold_Fastwaker   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Oct 7, 2009 - 5...   Oct 7, 2009 - 4:32 PM
- - qatar11   We are starting to scope creep here some... remem...   Oct 7, 2009 - 6:24 PM
|- - Harold_Fastwaker   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 7, 2009 - 7:24 ...   Oct 7, 2009 - 7:16 PM
- - Tom_SS2   keep the hatch, bin the glass just stick in some p...   Oct 7, 2009 - 6:39 PM
- - Hanyo   to be honest, if i was the one building this car f...   Oct 8, 2009 - 2:17 AM
|- - TiGZ461   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Oct 8, 2009 - 3:17 AM...   Oct 8, 2009 - 2:46 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Well the biggest issue I see with removig the hats...   Oct 8, 2009 - 7:15 AM
- - Tigawoods   back end will lift and slip out   Oct 8, 2009 - 11:06 AM
- - lagos   Replace glass. Add riser blocks.   Oct 8, 2009 - 2:07 PM
- - Superaison   replace glass as stated above, and get a carbon fi...   Oct 8, 2009 - 2:14 PM
- - johnnehh   QUOTE (Superaison @ Oct 8, 2009 - 3...   Oct 8, 2009 - 4:47 PM
- - Tigawoods   cf hatch ftw. then paint it thats what im doing   Oct 8, 2009 - 6:58 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Screw that, I'd leave it bare. CF sexyness FTW...   Oct 8, 2009 - 7:04 PM
- - Tigawoods   it would look down right idiotic on my car   Oct 8, 2009 - 7:49 PM
- - SwissFerdi   That's true...unless you got one with blue wor...   Oct 8, 2009 - 7:50 PM
- - qatar11   Where are you guys finding CF rear hatches?   Oct 8, 2009 - 8:11 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 8, 2009 - 6:11 ...   Oct 8, 2009 - 8:56 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (6strngs @ Oct 8, 2009 - 8:56 ...   Oct 10, 2009 - 7:18 AM
- - Tom_SS2   he can't fork out for a CF hatch as the car ca...   Oct 10, 2009 - 8:17 AM
- - Tigawoods   even if it where to. would the glass be enough? th...   Oct 10, 2009 - 8:17 AM
- - qatar11   I think the rear hatch and glass are required from...   Oct 10, 2009 - 8:45 AM
- - Tom_SS2   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 10, 2009 - 9:45...   Oct 10, 2009 - 9:53 AM


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