4A-GE 20V + 6Speed + 1.8l displacement, omg, am I crazy only thining it? Advices please!! Options

[Demios]

Hi there!
I'm sooo excited! I just read some info on the web about the last 4A-GE 20Valves built for some Corolla and thought this:

Is it possible swap a 4A-GE 20Valves (it doesn't matter if a Black or Silver top, the difference explained in the documents I read is not that much) into a Celica with the 6 speed manual gearbox made with some blacktop?

And secondly, is it possible and wise increase the displacement of the engine from 1.6l to 1.8l? If yes 'cause this doesn't give problems to the intake and this one is large enought to support 0.2l more, wich parts must be used? I mean, the only difference is the stroke so i need the 7A block or i can do that with something smaller?

[delusionz]

You're the first to mention racing, I agree the 165BHP over the 140BHP would have the advantage (in a straight line race,) but these are street cars and I'm talking drivability on the street.

If you're going down the track of what would beat what in a race, Why the hell would you put a 4age in when you could have a 3sgte. I wasn't "hating" on the 4age, It's a good motor, it's just not the best choice of motor for a Celica, infact its probably one of the weakest and I believe inadequate for the heavy Celica.

I'd explain it, but you wouldn't really understand blah blah blah -- Nice. You can still have a 4age and admit its weak in a Celica, just like the first guy did, doesn't make your manhood any smaller and it's not a bad engine, it's a hell good one once again for the lighter Levin/Trueno or your USDM Corolla, not the Celica. Sorry to upset anyone who owns a 4age.

[Kwanza26]

You're the first to mention racing, I agree the 165BHP over the 140BHP would have the advantage (in a straight line race,) but these are street cars and I'm talking drivability on the street.

If you're going down the track of what would beat what in a race, Why the hell would you put a 4age in when you could have a 3sgte. I wasn't "hating" on the 4age, It's a good motor, it's just not the best choice of motor for a Celica, infact its probably one of the weakest and I believe inadequate for the heavy Celica.

I'd explain it, but you wouldn't really understand blah blah blah -- Nice. You can still have a 4age and admit its weak in a Celica, just like the first guy did, doesn't make your manhood any smaller and it's not a bad engine, it's a hell good one once again for the lighter Levin/Trueno or your USDM Corolla, not the Celica. Sorry to upset anyone who owns a 4age.

Street driving is subjective. What I find hilarious is your argument comparing engine cruise speeds. Because of rod-stroke ratios, a 5S at 4000 rpms is roughly equivalent to a 4AG at 2000-2500 rpms. Of course these numbers are estimates... but because the 5S has such a long stroke versus rod length, its single revolutions places much more stress on the motor than a 4AG, with its short stroke, at much higher rpms. Neither engine struggles... they just work like how they're designed.

As far as street driving goes... SUBJECTIVE. The engine constantly moves up and down all over the powerband. The 4AG has a much larger powerband... so to say one is better than the other, when the torque difference is small (~20-25 ftlbs)... it's just biased opinion. I don't know about you... but what happens when you speed up? The engine revs. Yeah... so logically more power gained through revs is good right? The 5S may stay in the powerband longer... but you don't use power when you're cruising. You use it when you accelerate.

And no... my mandhood satisfies my wife. That's good enough for me. I'm just saying... based on my PERSONAL experience owning cars with both engines (20V powered AE86, MR2)... the 4AG rocks the socks off of the boring 5SFE any day. But hey... each to his own... just know what you're talking about. I still liked my 20V AE86 better than my daily ride (350Z)...

At least we know where your name comes from now...

Cheers!

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Oct 22, 2009 - 1:51 AM