Nov 29, 2009 - 1:19 AM
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Ok so it's been a while since I've worked on cars for a living. My rears are showing two different types of wear patterns, in the form of cupping and inner tire feathering. The tires have always been noisy since I bought the car over a year ago, and I know the alignment isn't perfect. I post this up for a couple reasons: to get a second opinion before I dump some money into the car, and to educate some of the other guys on here about what all you can see just from how your tires are wearing.
Now in both pics you can see the dramatic inner tire wear in the form of light/dark sections, and you can somewhat see how there's a darker stripe across the tire where it is worn differently: this is where the tire is flat spotting/cupping, both my rears are pretty much 16 sided polygons lol. ![]() ![]() Here's the educational part: the feathering on the insides of the tires is from the toe angles being negative, or toe out, meaning the wheels point outward when the car is moving forward. The cupping can be cause by a few different reasons: wheels/hubs out of line, unbalanced tires (usually REALLY unbalanced) or bad shocks/struts. The cupping is what concerns me. I've never seen a cupping pattern this bad, the tire varies in tread depth from about 5mm to bald all the way around the tire. The struts aren't leaking and they pass the "bounce test", the wheels/hubs aren't bent or anything, and the wheels themselves are fairly well balanced. The only thing I can think of is the struts are bad, despite the usual factors. Oh and if it matters the tires are Bridgestone Potenzas, don't remember the exact model number. They have been on the car a few years, have seen about 60k miles if I remember correctly from the PO's service records. -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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Nov 30, 2009 - 11:55 PM
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check for wheel bearing play, ive had the same problem in that same spot, turns out i had a busted l/r wheel bearing.
this is too obvious but get 4 tyres at a time, have your wheels balanced during fitment, and have a wheel alignment done afterwards. remember that bridgestone potenza have a relatively short lifespan as its a high performance compound tyre. i ripped through a set within 3 service intervals without doing anything excessive. wheel alignment will definitely help even the wear though. -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
blu94gt Let's test your diagnostic skills by judging tire wear! Nov 29, 2009 - 1:19 AM
mmmchocolate thats crazy man! i have no idea. i just wanted... Nov 29, 2009 - 1:21 AM
njccmd2002 ^^^^
somtimes i think the cupping could be ... Nov 29, 2009 - 1:24 AM
Hanyo i think its a combination of over inflated tires +... Nov 29, 2009 - 3:01 AM
808celica how's the frame alignment and lug nuts torqued... Nov 29, 2009 - 4:12 AM
richee3 My car does the same thing. I've had the wheel... Nov 29, 2009 - 1:32 PM
windowlicker you ever think that the rubber bushings in the ten... Nov 29, 2009 - 5:27 PM
blu94gt QUOTE (Hanyo @ Nov 29, 2009 - 2:01 A... Nov 29, 2009 - 10:11 PM
cardshark525 It could be something as simple as locking up the ... Nov 30, 2009 - 2:09 AM
blu94gt QUOTE (cardshark525 @ Nov 30, 2009 - 1... Nov 30, 2009 - 5:54 PM
richee3 Not that this has anything to do with what is happ... Nov 30, 2009 - 11:37 PM
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SwissFerdi QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 30, 2009 - 11... Dec 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM
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SwissFerdi Okay, thanks man, I appreciate that. I see what yo... Dec 2, 2009 - 10:51 PM
bindertch With your car lifted up try to pick the tire up. I... Dec 17, 2009 - 10:56 AM![]() ![]() |
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