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> Let's test your diagnostic skills by judging tire wear!, My rears are torn up!
post Nov 29, 2009 - 1:19 AM
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Ok so it's been a while since I've worked on cars for a living. My rears are showing two different types of wear patterns, in the form of cupping and inner tire feathering. The tires have always been noisy since I bought the car over a year ago, and I know the alignment isn't perfect. I post this up for a couple reasons: to get a second opinion before I dump some money into the car, and to educate some of the other guys on here about what all you can see just from how your tires are wearing.

Now in both pics you can see the dramatic inner tire wear in the form of light/dark sections, and you can somewhat see how there's a darker stripe across the tire where it is worn differently: this is where the tire is flat spotting/cupping, both my rears are pretty much 16 sided polygons lol.




Here's the educational part: the feathering on the insides of the tires is from the toe angles being negative, or toe out, meaning the wheels point outward when the car is moving forward. The cupping can be cause by a few different reasons: wheels/hubs out of line, unbalanced tires (usually REALLY unbalanced) or bad shocks/struts.

The cupping is what concerns me. I've never seen a cupping pattern this bad, the tire varies in tread depth from about 5mm to bald all the way around the tire. The struts aren't leaking and they pass the "bounce test", the wheels/hubs aren't bent or anything, and the wheels themselves are fairly well balanced. The only thing I can think of is the struts are bad, despite the usual factors.

Oh and if it matters the tires are Bridgestone Potenzas, don't remember the exact model number. They have been on the car a few years, have seen about 60k miles if I remember correctly from the PO's service records.


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post Nov 30, 2009 - 11:55 PM
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check for wheel bearing play, ive had the same problem in that same spot, turns out i had a busted l/r wheel bearing.

this is too obvious but get 4 tyres at a time, have your wheels balanced during fitment, and have a wheel alignment done afterwards.

remember that bridgestone potenza have a relatively short lifespan as its a high performance compound tyre. i ripped through a set within 3 service intervals without doing anything excessive.


wheel alignment will definitely help even the wear though.


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post Dec 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 30, 2009 - 11:55 PM) *
remember that bridgestone potenza have a relatively short lifespan as its a high performance compound tyre. i ripped through a set within 3 service intervals without doing anything excessive.


Very true, I got my RE92's with about 50-60% tread left in the middle of September. I checked the tire a few days ago and felt the wear indicators. rolleyes.gif But I've also been doing some good cornering and a few launches, so I haven't always been gentle.

Front left, Bridgestone Potenza RE92:


Rear left, Primewell PZ-900 (DEFINITELY down to the wear indicators):


This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Dec 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM


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