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post Dec 2, 2009 - 11:05 PM
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So, I am wondering what torque gains/losses would I see for the following on my current 5sfe;

Performance Header (ported with head to match flow characteristics)
Stock piping diameter from front to back but with a High Flow Cat and with a Performance Resonator
SRI with Perf. Filter
Webcams 294 grind (mild option)

I am wondering because I am trying to figure out how much torque I should have vs the stock torque of a 3sge engine.

My mech. friend has made an offer I cannot refuse but I want to see if it's worth it or not. My 5sfe engine is in excellent shape and I had a lot of work done to it probably equaling around 5G's this summer. Anyway, my friend offered to fully swap my 5sfe out for a purchased (by me) 3sge including all of the modding and wiring work necessary along with the tranny, ecu, and wiring work for the completed swap.

How much torque does a 3rd gen JDM 3sge engine have? This is what I am looking at buying with the amount and who it'll be bought from:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...#ht_1651wt_1167

I know the bid ended but he has informed me that they have many, many more. The good thing about this place is they take a video of the actual engine showing the ID numbers in the video and do a compression test on that actual engine in the video and then send that engine to you.

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post Dec 4, 2009 - 2:56 PM
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Good to know TRD. I had a nasty built up turbo car before. It was an eagle talon awd tsi. I dumped 12G's into just the engine and had it fully built with all the best goods. It was running around 25 psi and I had a high end stand alone management system for it. I had it tuned and everything. I spent more money on that car and I ended up selling it for 5G with a blown head gasket only 2 years after building it. The head gasket was a cometic one with APR head studs. Anyway, I love turbo cars (from the factory) BUT I will never put money into a turbo setup again (the talon was already a turbo car).

My celica has only run me 1/2 the cost of the talon and it is way more dependable. It runs very well and I thoroughly like it. I know I can get the swap done for less then you have mentioned. My friend is a diesel tractor mechanic and works on sports cars of all kinds on his free time. He owes me a massive favor and has offered to do the swap for me free as I mentioned. He also gets really good deals on parts and I can even get new parts from my cousin (who owns his own garage) at 0 mark up.

If the 3sge gets me more power from the get go, then I would just do exactly what you wrote: I'd probably do a port/polish on the head with an intake and full exhaust set up, then add cams and tune it. I can't see how difficult that would be and I think I'd be over the 200 hp mark (with a 173 bhp 3sge) and maybe upto 160 foot per pound torque, maybe more? That would be great for me.

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