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post Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
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i will be picking up a ct20b for my 2nd gen this weekend, and was curious as to see who else was running the same set-up, as well as what other supporting mods you have, and what kind of numbers you were getting out of it as well.

I think this will really open up and answer a lot of questions about the limits of a basically stock 2nd gen, (for us 2nd gen guys) compared to the stock 3rd gen, with such a simple upgrade as a 20b.

From what i have researched, 290-320WHP should be attainable with simple mods to the 2nd gen.

Myself and lagos are going to see what we can do with each of our set-ups, and post back what we came up with.

I really do think that 300WHP is VERY realistic for the 2nd gen with the ct20b, if not more.


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post Dec 31, 2009 - 5:19 PM
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 PM) *
The turbos isnt really the problem with the GEN2 3sgtes, its the injectors. The CT20B is IMO the best turbo for the GEN2 on the stock ECU and injectors. Reasoning being is that the CT20B will max out your stock 440cc injectors with less then 20psi of boost. I ran the CT20B on my GEN2 for a few months before I upgraded to a full GEN3 swap, and it certainly makes a noticeable difference. Without the addition of water/methanol injection, and without the addition of an upgraded FPR...Be careful. Trying to push your setup to the 300whp mark, you will be pushing your injectors to the bitter edge of there duty cycle, which can be VERY dangerous. Just keep an eye on your AFR's while on the dyno, and stay within the 11.5 "safe zone" and you will be very successful at making more power.

Now, if you upgrade to a CT20B, upgrade the stock FPR, adjustable cam gears, add in a water/methanol injection kit....and throw in a piggypack for SMALL/FINE tuning/corrections, then you have the ability to match the power that a GEN3 makes on the stock CT20B no questions asked. If you are looking for comparison numbers, my GEN3 made 285whp at 16 psi, and 315whp at 18psi all on the stock GEN3. I wish I would have dynoed my GEN2 setup with the CT20B, bad sadly never happened. I am looking forward to your results.



No Jim. We are going to be pushing MY car with this turbo. wink.gif


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Posts in this topic
- 95st-celica   ct20b on 2nd gen   Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
- - Mstoochn   I'd say it would be close, you would be runnin...   Dec 31, 2009 - 4:00 PM
- - _Jim_   The turbos isnt really the problem with the GEN2 3...   Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 P...   Dec 31, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - mk7celica   I will be going to the dyno after the new year som...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (mk7celica @ Dec 31, 2009 - 6...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:33 PM
- - mk7celica   No oem ecu blew and knock sensor blew but that was...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:59 PM
- - _Jim_   SWEET ART, looking forward to the results! Wh...   Dec 31, 2009 - 7:31 PM
- - 95st-celica   I have been researching this A LOT lately and im r...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:32 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:42 PM
- - 95st-celica   bascially i am buying the 20b off of stevenson tom...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:00 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:12 PM
- - 95st-celica   Even with the stock injectors and fuel system of t...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:33 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 11:26 AM
- - lagos   Here is the goal for this project... A lot of the ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 1:57 PM
- - Fate   can't wait to see this.   Jan 3, 2010 - 6:26 PM
- - 95st-celica   basically what art said in a nutshell. The whole ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 11:23 PM
|- - _Jim_   Great to hear. You WILL be very successful with t...   Jan 4, 2010 - 12:15 AM
- - lagos   Upgrading to larger injectors really isn't as ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 12:47 AM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 1:47 AM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 6:57 AM
- - OOBE   I have a CT20b is anyone wants to buy it. Sorry f...   Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM
|- - 95st-celica   QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM)...   Jan 4, 2010 - 3:38 PM
- - garin   good stuff... when is this all taking place joe?   Jan 4, 2010 - 4:38 PM
- - 95st-celica   ART actually just picked the turbo up a few minute...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:21 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:45 PM
- - OOBE   I have to check the wheel. It's off a 3rd gen ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:57 PM
- - lagos   Today I am just a man. Tomorrow I will be a man wi...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:08 PM
- - _Jim_   Very nice Art!   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:18 PM
- - 95st-celica   yea im defintally going to put the helper spring o...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:51 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 11:34 PM
- - lagos   Upgrade complete!   Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM...   Jan 7, 2010 - 12:00 AM
- - 95st-celica   post up them pictures art, and start street tuning...   Jan 7, 2010 - 4:52 PM
- - _Jim_   Turning up the boost is as easy as zeroing out the...   Jan 7, 2010 - 5:59 PM
- - 95st-celica   lol...i know how it works jimbo and he better not...   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 7, 2010 - ...   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:22 PM
- - _Jim_   RE: ct20b on 2nd gen   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:24 PM
- - 95st-celica   haha...im not worried...you drive like a grandpa s...   Jan 7, 2010 - 11:27 PM
- - lagos   I'll admit my first impressions were "eh...   Jan 8, 2010 - 1:37 AM
- - presure2   Good stuff art, can't wait for the dyno tests...   Jan 8, 2010 - 10:11 PM
- - TRD_Ian   any updates on this boys?   May 26, 2010 - 8:24 PM
- - 95st-celica   art has been slacking, and since i traded him the ...   May 26, 2010 - 8:30 PM


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