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post Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 AM
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thinking about a potential swap, was looking at a 4agze and wondering if it would be the easiest motor to swap with the st, or just put the head on my 7afe block, or put the 4age head on my block, or just swap it for a 3sgte, which would mean new mounts, harness, ecu, exhaust, and tranny, thoughts?


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post Jan 1, 2010 - 10:57 PM
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No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easier in a ST than a 3sgte swap in terms of money and time.If ur not shooting for over 225 u can use the same tranny and mounts with no problem.A 3sgte swap into a ST is gonna be about 2500$ more thana 4agze swap also. Jim is def right that the 3s is a better engine,but it costs a lot more and is a much bigger job to install.


The 4agze has forged pistons stock and a few other things(i can name if u want) that are better than puting on a 4age head to your 7afe.

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post Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 1, 2010 - 10:57 PM) *
No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easier in a ST than a 3sgte swap in terms of money and time.If ur not shooting for over 225 u can use the same tranny and mounts with no problem.A 3sgte swap into a ST is gonna be about 2500$ more thana 4agze swap also. Jim is def right that the 3s is a better engine,but it costs a lot more and is a much bigger job to install.


The 4agze has forged pistons stock and a few other things(i can name if u want) that are better than puting on a 4age head to your 7afe.


No offense taken Bud. You are correct that a 4agze would be a cheaper swap into a 7a 5 speed equipt car, but the OP didnt make mention of money, just the easy of the swap. So at that point (with both swaps being basically equal in difficulty), the 3s is the clear winner. If money is an issue...and you dont have plans of 300+whp, then the 4agze could be a nice swap.


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- 96stgreendemon   ST engine swap   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 AM
- - richee3   4AGZE. Uses the same motor mounts. It's kinda ...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:37 AM
- - 96stgreendemon   what about the wireing and all of that, does it us...   Jan 1, 2010 - 1:08 PM
- - soulshadow   Use the search button and do the swap yourself you...   Jan 1, 2010 - 8:54 PM
|- - Mstoochn   QUOTE (soulshadow @ Jan 1, 2010 - 8...   Jan 1, 2010 - 9:04 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ^^ how about you use the search button and look to...   Jan 1, 2010 - 9:57 PM
- - _Jim_   A GEN3 3sgte swap wont be much more work then a 4a...   Jan 1, 2010 - 10:15 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easi...   Jan 1, 2010 - 10:57 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 1, 2010 - 10...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 1, 2010 - 8:09 PM...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:16 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 12...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:38 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   o sorry jim ive never done it haha,i just thought ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 12:06 AM
- - 96stgreendemon   yeah im not really looking for alot more horse pow...   Jan 2, 2010 - 12:52 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   look into the 4age black top,its NA but puts down ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:00 AM
- - GriffGirl   Your easiest bet is going to be to do a 4age head ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:19 AM
- - Mstoochn   head swap increase compression? lol?   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:02 AM
- - GriffGirl   yeah, swapping a 4age head onto a 7afe block incre...   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:37 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   4agze engine=1500$ from venus,they claim that...   Jan 2, 2010 - 1:29 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 2...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:36 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 10...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:05 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ha ha yeah i just want a tad bit more power, it st...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:19 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ^^ yes michelle hit the nail right on the head, i ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:10 PM
- - GriffGirl   Exactly, you can very reasonably expect that a tur...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:18 PM
- - 95st-celica   Honestly, from FIRST hand experience, i can say th...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:31 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:59 PM
- - lagos   All swaps are a pain in the as and costs money. If...   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:37 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 2, 2010 - 5:37 PM...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:17 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 2, 2010 - 1:37 PM...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:39 PM
- - soulshadow   Get yourself a Supra, or a WRX.... * I have a com...   Jan 3, 2010 - 8:19 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jan 2, 2010 - 5:3...   Jan 3, 2010 - 8:32 PM


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