ST engine swap, 4agze, or 4age, or 3sgte Options

[96stgreendemon]

thinking about a potential swap, was looking at a 4agze and wondering if it would be the easiest motor to swap with the st, or just put the head on my 7afe block, or put the 4age head on my block, or just swap it for a 3sgte, which would mean new mounts, harness, ecu, exhaust, and tranny, thoughts?

[CelicaST_CALI]

No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easier in a ST than a 3sgte swap in terms of money and time.If ur not shooting for over 225 u can use the same tranny and mounts with no problem.A 3sgte swap into a ST is gonna be about 2500$ more thana 4agze swap also. Jim is def right that the 3s is a better engine,but it costs a lot more and is a much bigger job to install.


The 4agze has forged pistons stock and a few other things(i can name if u want) that are better than puting on a 4age head to your 7afe.

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jan 1, 2010 - 11:01 PM

[_Jim_]

No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easier in a ST than a 3sgte swap in terms of money and time.If ur not shooting for over 225 u can use the same tranny and mounts with no problem.A 3sgte swap into a ST is gonna be about 2500$ more thana 4agze swap also. Jim is def right that the 3s is a better engine,but it costs a lot more and is a much bigger job to install.


The 4agze has forged pistons stock and a few other things(i can name if u want) that are better than puting on a 4age head to your 7afe.

No offense taken Bud. You are correct that a 4agze would be a cheaper swap into a 7a 5 speed equipt car, but the OP didnt make mention of money, just the easy of the swap. So at that point (with both swaps being basically equal in difficulty), the 3s is the clear winner. If money is an issue...and you dont have plans of 300+whp, then the 4agze could be a nice swap.

[CelicaST_CALI]

No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easier in a ST than a 3sgte swap in terms of money and time.If ur not shooting for over 225 u can use the same tranny and mounts with no problem.A 3sgte swap into a ST is gonna be about 2500$ more thana 4agze swap also. Jim is def right that the 3s is a better engine,but it costs a lot more and is a much bigger job to install.


The 4agze has forged pistons stock and a few other things(i can name if u want) that are better than puting on a 4age head to your 7afe.

No offense taken Bud. You are correct that a 4agze would be a cheaper swap into a 7a 5 speed equipt car, but the OP didnt make mention of money, just the easy of the swap. So at that point (with both swaps being basically equal in difficulty), the 3s is the clear winner. If money is an issue...and you dont have plans of 300+whp, then the 4agze could be a nice swap.

But they arent?With the 4agze u leave the tranny/axles there,and im sure u know its a job to get that sucker out.Also u dont have to even replace the mounts,i know its not to hard,but its just ONE more thing that has to be done.But i do agree if money is no problem than more the 3sgte route for sure.