ST engine swap, 4agze, or 4age, or 3sgte Options

[96stgreendemon]

thinking about a potential swap, was looking at a 4agze and wondering if it would be the easiest motor to swap with the st, or just put the head on my 7afe block, or put the 4age head on my block, or just swap it for a 3sgte, which would mean new mounts, harness, ecu, exhaust, and tranny, thoughts?

[CelicaST_CALI]

4agze engine=1500$ from venus,they claim thats everything under the hood and the ecu,no tranny.Then lets say 1000$ in misc crap..The 3sgte swap is about 3k for the engine,400 tranny,200 axles,mounts...it averages to about 4500.This is how i personally see it,2000$ less for a 4agze swap,but about 100 hp less.Please tell me if you disagree,im sure michelle will haha

[_Jim_]

4agze engine=1500$ from venus,they claim thats everything under the hood and the ecu,no tranny.Then lets say 1000$ in misc crap..The 3sgte swap is about 3k for the engine,400 tranny,200 axles,mounts...it averages to about 4500.This is how i personally see it,2000$ less for a 4agze swap,but about 100 hp less.Please tell me if you disagree,im sure michelle will haha

Ok lets do a little comparison (and these prices are based on a quick search and considered "average")

4agze:

COMPLETE Motor set.....1800 shipped
clutch, FMIC, gaskets, fluids, Misc.....1500$

Total:
3200$

Total power gains:
180whp
180wtq

(scrolling Mr2oc dyno registry)


GEN3 3sgte:
Complete motor set.....2000$ shipped (this is what I sell them for without the W2A IC, so since you be required to do a FMIC on the 4agze, it is only fair to price the GEN3 WITHOUT the W2A IC system in favor of a FMIC)
Clutch, FMIC, gaskets, fluids, Misc.....1500$
S54 transmission, axles, shifter cables, and mounts 400$

Total:
3900$

Total power gains
330whp
310wtq

(my personal results, which have been duplicated by others)



And now a little recap
4agze swap costs 3200$ completed and will produce around 180whp and 180wtq
GEN3 3sgte swap costs 3900$ completed and will produce around 330whp and 310wtq

So an addition 700$ allows you an ADDITIONAL 150whp and 130wtq.