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post Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 AM
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thinking about a potential swap, was looking at a 4agze and wondering if it would be the easiest motor to swap with the st, or just put the head on my 7afe block, or put the 4age head on my block, or just swap it for a 3sgte, which would mean new mounts, harness, ecu, exhaust, and tranny, thoughts?


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post Jan 2, 2010 - 3:31 PM
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Honestly, from FIRST hand experience, i can say that the ST swap to the 3sgte is not a walk in the park. The most difficult part would be sourcing everything down, for instance, GT-motor mounts(drove out 4 hours to pull them off a car in harrisburg) along with shifter cables, Source a GT transmission, axles, clutch, etc, etc. Then once you have everything, you are still going to have to drill holes through the frame, figure out the BEST possiabl way to secure the motor mount, rebuild the complete engine, all of which takes time and money. Along with sending out the harness to be wired up, its not just like your pulling your engine out, drilling 2 holes, putting the motor mounts in and bolt the engine back up. its a lot of work. Now i dont want to discourage anyone from doing it because with the right tools, time, and space it can be done, espically if you have everything right there ready to go. and being in college does not help with expenses at all, trust me on that one. you would be better of finding a GT as a base to start, that will cancel out a lot of problems right there, after that, decide if you want to boost the 5s, or do the swap. i think the swap is a very good upgrade for either the 5s or the 7a, but with limited funds, and mechanical experience, its all up to what you think you can do, and what power goals you are looking to get out of your car, but in the same asspect, the 3sgte, either 2ND GEN or 3RD GEN, put out great reliable power.


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- 96stgreendemon   ST engine swap   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 AM
- - richee3   4AGZE. Uses the same motor mounts. It's kinda ...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:37 AM
- - 96stgreendemon   what about the wireing and all of that, does it us...   Jan 1, 2010 - 1:08 PM
- - soulshadow   Use the search button and do the swap yourself you...   Jan 1, 2010 - 8:54 PM
|- - Mstoochn   QUOTE (soulshadow @ Jan 1, 2010 - 8...   Jan 1, 2010 - 9:04 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ^^ how about you use the search button and look to...   Jan 1, 2010 - 9:57 PM
- - _Jim_   A GEN3 3sgte swap wont be much more work then a 4a...   Jan 1, 2010 - 10:15 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   No offense to jim but the 4agze swap is A LOT easi...   Jan 1, 2010 - 10:57 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 1, 2010 - 10...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:09 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 1, 2010 - 8:09 PM...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:16 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 12...   Jan 1, 2010 - 11:38 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   o sorry jim ive never done it haha,i just thought ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 12:06 AM
- - 96stgreendemon   yeah im not really looking for alot more horse pow...   Jan 2, 2010 - 12:52 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   look into the 4age black top,its NA but puts down ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:00 AM
- - GriffGirl   Your easiest bet is going to be to do a 4age head ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:19 AM
- - Mstoochn   head swap increase compression? lol?   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:02 AM
- - GriffGirl   yeah, swapping a 4age head onto a 7afe block incre...   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:37 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   4agze engine=1500$ from venus,they claim that...   Jan 2, 2010 - 1:29 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 2...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:36 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jan 2, 2010 - 10...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:05 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ha ha yeah i just want a tad bit more power, it st...   Jan 2, 2010 - 2:19 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   ^^ yes michelle hit the nail right on the head, i ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:10 PM
- - GriffGirl   Exactly, you can very reasonably expect that a tur...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:18 PM
- - 95st-celica   Honestly, from FIRST hand experience, i can say th...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:31 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 3:59 PM
- - lagos   All swaps are a pain in the as and costs money. If...   Jan 2, 2010 - 4:37 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 2, 2010 - 5:37 PM...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:17 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 2, 2010 - 1:37 PM...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:39 PM
- - soulshadow   Get yourself a Supra, or a WRX.... * I have a com...   Jan 3, 2010 - 8:19 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jan 2, 2010 - 5:3...   Jan 3, 2010 - 8:32 PM


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