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post Dec 26, 2009 - 4:07 AM
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I was curious if a 2zz swap would be possible. As you may know I don't own a 6gc because I have no money frown.gif, but I have always loved the 2zz (despite 7gc ... you know). It does great work in the Lotus Exige and I really admire the Lotus team for giving this great engine a new life.

It would be a devestating swap what with all the custom fitings and pipings, not to mention electrical work and mounting. Would it even be worth it to have VVTL-i in a 6gc? I know a 3sgte would be a far better use of money, I know that it is only succesful in the Lotus because of its superior internals and its incredibly light weight, blah blah blah. But it would be damn unique no?

edit: I got to learn to search these things before I ask... I have my answer already. My bad.

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post Dec 29, 2009 - 7:32 PM
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^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


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post Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM
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QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 8:32 PM) *
^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


Lol@,

twin charging is not uncommon anymore, there is a member on this forum with a twn charged 2zz on a 7th gen GT (his name is..... er?)

a much more appropraite way of making power by any means it a forged boosted engine or wrc 3s swap.
for you emissions whores, keep your N/A and waste as much money on mods as you can so you have the mental mind set your car is a hell of alot quicker. a much more effective way would be to rip out your interior and trunk
end of discussion.

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post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:01 PM
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM) *
QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 8:32 PM) *
^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


twin charging is not uncommon anymore, there is a member on this forum with a twn charged 2zz on a 7th gen GT (his name is..... er?)


You can't supercharge a 2zz in the GT-S, and I don't see why anyone would spend the money for the swap into a GT.

I think you can super and Turbo a 1zz, but I personally enjoy a Turbo'd 2zz better wink.gif.


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post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:47 PM
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QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 10:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM) *
QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 8:32 PM) *
^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


twin charging is not uncommon anymore, there is a member on this forum with a twn charged 2zz on a 7th gen GT (his name is..... er?)


You can't supercharge a 2zz in the GT-S, and I don't see why anyone would spend the money for the swap into a GT.

I think you can super and Turbo a 1zz, but I personally enjoy a Turbo'd 2zz better wink.gif.



u cant supercharge the 2zz? Lol, did u miss my previous post? they put it in the exige, and yes, u can:

post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:48 PM
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^haha, learn something new everyday. I was told by my brother that you couldn't do that. After finishing some quick research, I realise that he is full of ****. I love him, but he is a worse lier then me.

My bad yo wink.gif.

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post Jan 2, 2010 - 10:15 AM
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a redtop beams is a far better engine than the 2zz, in a car of the same weight the beams will leave the 2zz behind, also an aftermarket ecu will give you 220bhp at the fly from a beams, plus an 8000rpm rev limit, good luck to any 2zz trying to match that without cams etc laugh.gif call me biast but i've owned both, the weight difference isnt a problem either as long as you remember to put the right size tyres on your car.

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post Jan 2, 2010 - 6:05 PM
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QUOTE (Edophus @ Jan 2, 2010 - 11:15 AM) *
a redtop beams is a far better engine than the 2zz, in a car of the same weight the beams will leave the 2zz behind, also an aftermarket ecu will give you 220bhp at the fly from a beams, plus an 8000rpm rev limit, good luck to any 2zz trying to match that without cams etc laugh.gif call me biast but i've owned both, the weight difference isnt a problem either as long as you remember to put the right size tyres on your car.


haha oh yes! thats right Edophus you tell them. Toyota should of stuck with a 2zz-ge 2.0 ltr. then that would have been an even better engine. They should of forgot about lift (honda engineers have already have that mastered) and made another 200 hp 2.0 ltr engine with the same amount of power as the redtop beams!


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post Jan 2, 2010 - 7:10 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 2, 2010 - 6:05 PM) *
haha oh yes! thats right Edophus you tell them. Toyota should of stuck with a 2zz-ge 2.0 ltr. then that would have been an even better engine. They should of forgot about lift (honda engineers have already have that mastered) and made another 200 hp 2.0 ltr engine with the same amount of power as the redtop beams!


indeed the problem with the 2zz is that is it is based on the 1zz, which in turn is based on the old A series like the 4age, i'm talking in terms of bore spacing etc, thats its limiting factor when it comes to na tuning, the beams will always be able to rev higher with more capacity which more than outweighs its weight disadvantageas it can run lesser duration cams to gain the same peak power, over the same rev range, but the lesser duration cams means it puts out more torque than its extra capacity would suggest. An extra 30-40 ft-lb of torque over the same rev range is why the beams owns the 2zz.

Posts in this topic
- HaysoosKreesto   2zz swap?   Dec 26, 2009 - 4:07 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE As you may know I don't own a 6gc becaus...   Dec 26, 2009 - 10:06 AM
- - garin   if you like the vvtl-i, do a beams vvti swap. kind...   Dec 26, 2009 - 11:44 AM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   QUOTE (garin @ Dec 26, 2009 - 12:44 ...   Dec 26, 2009 - 3:30 PM
- - 95CelicaST   The 2ZZ is only successful in the Lotus due to ver...   Dec 26, 2009 - 12:49 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 26, 2009 - 12...   Dec 26, 2009 - 12:55 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (garin @ Dec 26, 2009 - 12:55 ...   Dec 26, 2009 - 1:09 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 26, 2009 - 1...   Dec 26, 2009 - 3:19 PM
- - richee3   You're a good man for searching and answering ...   Dec 26, 2009 - 9:19 PM
- - Bitter   very true, no power until over 2000rpm. no off the...   Dec 26, 2009 - 10:32 PM
- - HaysoosKreesto   the 7th gen doesn't have much torque no, but w...   Dec 26, 2009 - 11:07 PM
- - richee3   I meant that you never get to have any fun with an...   Dec 26, 2009 - 11:14 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 26, 2009 - 11:1...   Dec 27, 2009 - 12:12 AM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 27, 2009 - 12...   Dec 29, 2009 - 8:14 PM
- - Bitter   thats VERY true, the auto gearing is poorly matche...   Dec 26, 2009 - 11:29 PM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   QUOTE (Bitter @ Dec 26, 2009 - 11:29...   Dec 28, 2009 - 4:12 AM
- - Smaay   you 2ZZ haters have no freaking clue what you are ...   Dec 29, 2009 - 6:20 PM
|- - Mstoochn   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:20 P...   Dec 29, 2009 - 7:04 PM
- - HaysoosKreesto   ^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enoug...   Dec 29, 2009 - 7:32 PM
|- - Mstoochn   QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 8...   Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:3...   Dec 29, 2009 - 9:01 PM
|- - Mstoochn   QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 1...   Dec 29, 2009 - 9:47 PM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   ^haha, learn something new everyday. I was told by...   Dec 29, 2009 - 9:48 PM
|- - Edophus   a redtop beams is a far better engine than the 2zz...   Jan 2, 2010 - 10:15 AM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ Jan 2, 2010 - 11:15...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:05 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 2, 2010 - 6...   Jan 2, 2010 - 7:10 PM
- - njccmd2002   yeah but an aftermarket ecu for the beams is price...   Jan 2, 2010 - 11:35 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 2, 2010 - 11...   Jan 2, 2010 - 1:53 PM
- - Smaay   QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 4...   Jan 2, 2010 - 1:29 PM


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