Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
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i will be picking up a ct20b for my 2nd gen this weekend, and was curious as to see who else was running the same set-up, as well as what other supporting mods you have, and what kind of numbers you were getting out of it as well.
I think this will really open up and answer a lot of questions about the limits of a basically stock 2nd gen, (for us 2nd gen guys) compared to the stock 3rd gen, with such a simple upgrade as a 20b. From what i have researched, 290-320WHP should be attainable with simple mods to the 2nd gen. Myself and lagos are going to see what we can do with each of our set-ups, and post back what we came up with. I really do think that 300WHP is VERY realistic for the 2nd gen with the ct20b, if not more. -------------------- ![]() I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC 1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard 1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard 1988 Dodge Aries K (sold) 1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica 1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica 1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress 1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale 1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress |
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Jan 3, 2010 - 11:23 PM
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basically what art said in a nutshell.
The whole OBJECTIVE of this project is not to prove that one motor is better than the other...for God sakes there both toyota 3s-gte engines, and either one are great, powerfull engines no matter which way you look at it. The fact of the matter is, we want to be able to prove solid facts that with the addition of the upgraded turbo between 93-94 on the 3sgte, that the HP gains were noticable, but the basic layout of the engine was not. And as art has stated, and as i will say myself, with my own research, is that i see NO problem with a 2nd gen engine cranking out over 300WHP with the proper tuning, and cooling. I mean honeslty we could go back and forth about this all day, and the variables that get thrown in are endless. Ceramic turbine wheel as opposed to a steel wheel, 10* cooler on this dyno then that one, WI and not water injection, the list goes on and on and on. All i really want to see, is that with the little mods i have done to my car, such as an intake, Front mount intercooler, and safc, that anyone other noob can install, along with the ct20b, that we can push really respectiable numbers with basically, if not COMPLETELY a stock block. This is just a little project that i have been wanting to do for quiet some time, and with the aviability of arts car, and all of the mods currently installed, i see no better way then to take it to the dyno and see what we can achieve. Let me just say this...i would love to build, and probably WILL build anouther 6gc with a 3s swap. and no doubt would i go with a 3rd gen 3sgte. But for all of the throw back guys, who already have a 2nd gen, we are trying to show them how to get the most reliable, and best performance out of their 2nd gens with out breaking the bank. 300 whp should be a walk in the park in my honest oppinion, i would like to see more along the lines of 325-330WHP. THEN i will be satisfied But lets just take one step at a time, do it the right way, and post the best posiable results that we come up with. I rather show numbers that others can simply achieve rather than throwing up something like 24 psi and 330whp. should be interesting none the less This post has been edited by 95st-celica: Jan 3, 2010 - 11:46 PM -------------------- ![]() I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC 1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard 1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard 1988 Dodge Aries K (sold) 1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica 1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica 1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress 1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale 1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress |
95st-celica ct20b on 2nd gen Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
Mstoochn I'd say it would be close, you would be runnin... Dec 31, 2009 - 4:00 PM
_Jim_ The turbos isnt really the problem with the GEN2 3... Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 PM
lagos QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 P... Dec 31, 2009 - 5:19 PM
mk7celica I will be going to the dyno after the new year som... Dec 31, 2009 - 6:10 PM
lagos QUOTE (mk7celica @ Dec 31, 2009 - 6... Dec 31, 2009 - 6:33 PM
mk7celica No oem ecu blew and knock sensor blew but that was... Dec 31, 2009 - 6:59 PM
_Jim_ SWEET ART, looking forward to the results! Wh... Dec 31, 2009 - 7:31 PM
95st-celica I have been researching this A LOT lately and im r... Jan 2, 2010 - 5:32 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ... Jan 2, 2010 - 5:42 PM
95st-celica bascially i am buying the 20b off of stevenson tom... Jan 2, 2010 - 6:00 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ... Jan 2, 2010 - 6:12 PM
95st-celica Even with the stock injectors and fuel system of t... Jan 2, 2010 - 6:33 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ... Jan 3, 2010 - 11:26 AM
lagos Here is the goal for this project...
A lot of the ... Jan 3, 2010 - 1:57 PM
Fate can't wait to see this. Jan 3, 2010 - 6:26 PM
_Jim_ Great to hear. You WILL be very successful with t... Jan 4, 2010 - 12:15 AM
lagos Upgrading to larger injectors really isn't as ... Jan 4, 2010 - 12:47 AM
_Jim_ QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 1:47 AM... Jan 4, 2010 - 6:57 AM
OOBE I have a CT20b is anyone wants to buy it. Sorry f... Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM
95st-celica QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM)... Jan 4, 2010 - 3:38 PM
garin good stuff... when is this all taking place joe? Jan 4, 2010 - 4:38 PM
95st-celica ART actually just picked the turbo up a few minute... Jan 4, 2010 - 5:21 PM
garin QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ... Jan 4, 2010 - 5:45 PM
OOBE I have to check the wheel. It's off a 3rd gen ... Jan 4, 2010 - 5:57 PM
lagos Today I am just a man. Tomorrow I will be a man wi... Jan 4, 2010 - 7:08 PM
_Jim_ Very nice Art! Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM
lagos QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM... Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM... Jan 4, 2010 - 7:18 PM
95st-celica yea im defintally going to put the helper spring o... Jan 4, 2010 - 7:51 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ... Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM
lagos QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM... Jan 4, 2010 - 11:34 PM
lagos Upgrade complete! Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM
garin QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM... Jan 7, 2010 - 12:00 AM
95st-celica post up them pictures art, and start street tuning... Jan 7, 2010 - 4:52 PM
_Jim_ Turning up the boost is as easy as zeroing out the... Jan 7, 2010 - 5:59 PM
95st-celica lol...i know how it works jimbo
and he better not... Jan 7, 2010 - 6:10 PM
lagos QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 7, 2010 - ... Jan 7, 2010 - 6:22 PM
_Jim_ RE: ct20b on 2nd gen Jan 7, 2010 - 6:24 PM
95st-celica haha...im not worried...you drive like a grandpa s... Jan 7, 2010 - 11:27 PM
lagos I'll admit my first impressions were "eh... Jan 8, 2010 - 1:37 AM
presure2 Good stuff art, can't wait for the dyno tests... Jan 8, 2010 - 10:11 PM
TRD_Ian any updates on this boys? May 26, 2010 - 8:24 PM
95st-celica art has been slacking, and since i traded him the ... May 26, 2010 - 8:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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