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post Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
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i will be picking up a ct20b for my 2nd gen this weekend, and was curious as to see who else was running the same set-up, as well as what other supporting mods you have, and what kind of numbers you were getting out of it as well.

I think this will really open up and answer a lot of questions about the limits of a basically stock 2nd gen, (for us 2nd gen guys) compared to the stock 3rd gen, with such a simple upgrade as a 20b.

From what i have researched, 290-320WHP should be attainable with simple mods to the 2nd gen.

Myself and lagos are going to see what we can do with each of our set-ups, and post back what we came up with.

I really do think that 300WHP is VERY realistic for the 2nd gen with the ct20b, if not more.


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post Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM
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I have a CT20b is anyone wants to buy it. smile.gif Sorry for the threadjack. Just putting it out there. tongue.gif


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I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
post Jan 4, 2010 - 3:38 PM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM) *
I have a CT20b is anyone wants to buy it. smile.gif Sorry for the threadjack. Just putting it out there. tongue.gif



Talk to LAGOS i know after we are done with mine he will be looking for one to purchase....how many miles are on it? is it a steel wheel(off of the WRC) or is it a ceramic wheel? any shaft play?

JIM- i see what you are saying...and eventually i will run into the probelm of needing more fuel, which is why i will be looking for some stock 3rd gen 540's to throw in my car, along with an upgraded fuel rail. I know ATS sells the rails, along with wolfcats, i believe that is their name.

As for the offensive part, not at all, probably just the way it sounds over the computer...lol...like i said before we are just trying to show the best possiable route to get the most out of the 2nd gen with out breaking the bank. Once we have EVERYTHING fine tuned, runing optomial boost, Then i will go from there and upgrade the fuel system. But even still, with larger injectors, fuel rail, and a tune to compensate, you can only run so many pounds on the ct20b, espically with the ceramic wheel. From what i have heard, 18-19psi on the ceramic turbo is about the safest with-out pushing it too far. With the steel wheel you can go a few pounds more and still be somewhat safe. So as long as we have enough fuel to get us to 19psi on the ceramic 20b, there is no point in upgrading the fuel system or injectors, other then the fact of being safe(which is always a good thing dont get me wrong) but not something you need to get to that desired boost level, AGAIN as long as fuel is not an issue. And with the addition of the WI i dont think it will be a problem.

As far as the ecu goes, for what we are working with, i think the stock ecu of the 2nd gen will work just fine.

o0 and art, This thread isnt about making your car faster, its about making MY CAR FASTER!! your just lucky you have all of the supporing mods aready in the whip tongue.gif

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I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC
1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard
1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard
1988 Dodge Aries K (sold)
1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica
1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica
1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress
1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale
1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress

Posts in this topic
- 95st-celica   ct20b on 2nd gen   Dec 31, 2009 - 2:09 PM
- - Mstoochn   I'd say it would be close, you would be runnin...   Dec 31, 2009 - 4:00 PM
- - _Jim_   The turbos isnt really the problem with the GEN2 3...   Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Dec 31, 2009 - 5:02 P...   Dec 31, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - mk7celica   I will be going to the dyno after the new year som...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (mk7celica @ Dec 31, 2009 - 6...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:33 PM
- - mk7celica   No oem ecu blew and knock sensor blew but that was...   Dec 31, 2009 - 6:59 PM
- - _Jim_   SWEET ART, looking forward to the results! Wh...   Dec 31, 2009 - 7:31 PM
- - 95st-celica   I have been researching this A LOT lately and im r...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:32 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 5:42 PM
- - 95st-celica   bascially i am buying the 20b off of stevenson tom...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:00 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:12 PM
- - 95st-celica   Even with the stock injectors and fuel system of t...   Jan 2, 2010 - 6:33 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 11:26 AM
- - lagos   Here is the goal for this project... A lot of the ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 1:57 PM
- - Fate   can't wait to see this.   Jan 3, 2010 - 6:26 PM
- - 95st-celica   basically what art said in a nutshell. The whole ...   Jan 3, 2010 - 11:23 PM
|- - _Jim_   Great to hear. You WILL be very successful with t...   Jan 4, 2010 - 12:15 AM
- - lagos   Upgrading to larger injectors really isn't as ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 12:47 AM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 1:47 AM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 6:57 AM
- - OOBE   I have a CT20b is anyone wants to buy it. Sorry f...   Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM
|- - 95st-celica   QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 4, 2010 - 2:16 PM)...   Jan 4, 2010 - 3:38 PM
- - garin   good stuff... when is this all taking place joe?   Jan 4, 2010 - 4:38 PM
- - 95st-celica   ART actually just picked the turbo up a few minute...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:21 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:45 PM
- - OOBE   I have to check the wheel. It's off a 3rd gen ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 5:57 PM
- - lagos   Today I am just a man. Tomorrow I will be a man wi...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:08 PM
- - _Jim_   Very nice Art!   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:11 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:18 PM
- - 95st-celica   yea im defintally going to put the helper spring o...   Jan 4, 2010 - 7:51 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 4, 2010 - ...   Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jan 4, 2010 - 8:03 PM...   Jan 4, 2010 - 11:34 PM
- - lagos   Upgrade complete!   Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM...   Jan 7, 2010 - 12:00 AM
- - 95st-celica   post up them pictures art, and start street tuning...   Jan 7, 2010 - 4:52 PM
- - _Jim_   Turning up the boost is as easy as zeroing out the...   Jan 7, 2010 - 5:59 PM
- - 95st-celica   lol...i know how it works jimbo and he better not...   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 7, 2010 - ...   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:22 PM
- - _Jim_   RE: ct20b on 2nd gen   Jan 7, 2010 - 6:24 PM
- - 95st-celica   haha...im not worried...you drive like a grandpa s...   Jan 7, 2010 - 11:27 PM
- - lagos   I'll admit my first impressions were "eh...   Jan 8, 2010 - 1:37 AM
- - presure2   Good stuff art, can't wait for the dyno tests...   Jan 8, 2010 - 10:11 PM
- - TRD_Ian   any updates on this boys?   May 26, 2010 - 8:24 PM
- - 95st-celica   art has been slacking, and since i traded him the ...   May 26, 2010 - 8:30 PM


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