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post Jan 20, 2010 - 7:11 PM
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I have a 1996 ST and I am having a hard time deciding to either rebuild the 7A-FE engine in right now with a good 263,000 miles on it or to at least try and find a good 3S-GTE engine. I'm not a big genious about the engine and everything quite yet, so I need some opinions about how to maximize the engine power in the 7A-FE or just get a swapped 3S-GTE. I just want a car that will be quick and depenable, so I want to put the best under the hood. Also price estimates for both a rebuild and swap would be extrememly helpful. Tell me anything that should be done to help my car get a lot better under the hood.

Thank you, opinions and information will help me understand a little more about these sweet 6G cars!!!

-Seth
 
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post Jan 20, 2010 - 9:01 PM
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Like I said, there's no power to be had with an NA 7A-FE, so turbo's your options. So, in short, the 7A-FTE will give you 200ish HP, and will be just about the same cost as a 3S-GTE, which will give you 250ish horsepower...stock. The problem with the 7A-FTE setup is that it will get you to 200+ HP, but that's about the max...and you hit a wall. With the 3S-GTE, you get 250ish out of the box and that's just STOCK. Which means all you need to is turn up the boost and you've got more power. Go for the 3S-GTE.


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post Jan 20, 2010 - 9:07 PM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 10:01 PM) *
Like I said, there's no power to be had with an NA 7A-FE, so turbo's your options. So, in short, the 7A-FTE will give you 200ish HP, and will be just about the same cost as a 3S-GTE, which will give you 250ish horsepower...stock. The problem with the 7A-FTE setup is that it will get you to 200+ HP, but that's about the max...and you hit a wall. With the 3S-GTE, you get 250ish out of the box and that's just STOCK. Which means all you need to is turn up the boost and you've got more power. Go for the 3S-GTE.


I appreicate your help because I wouldn't have guessed any of this information. It would be a lot of pennies to get a 3S-GTE swap haha but I am leaning towards thinking that it will def. be worth the money due to the power of the engine increase that I will get. What are a few things I could do to the 3S-GTE engine to bump that horsepower and torque up?
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QUOTE (CelicaST96 @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9:07 PM) *
I appreicate your help because I wouldn't have guessed any of this information. It would be a lot of pennies to get a 3S-GTE swap haha but I am leaning towards thinking that it will def. be worth the money due to the power of the engine increase that I will get. What are a few things I could do to the 3S-GTE engine to bump that horsepower and torque up?


Increase the boost. Simple.

And that reminds me of something I forgot; gauges. These aren't necessary, but nice to have. A boost controller, air/fuel mixture gauge, boost gauge, and...another I can't think of right now.

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post Jan 20, 2010 - 9:26 PM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 10:11 PM) *
QUOTE (CelicaST96 @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9:07 PM) *
I appreicate your help because I wouldn't have guessed any of this information. It would be a lot of pennies to get a 3S-GTE swap haha but I am leaning towards thinking that it will def. be worth the money due to the power of the engine increase that I will get. What are a few things I could do to the 3S-GTE engine to bump that horsepower and torque up?


Increase the boost. Simple.

And that reminds me of something I forgot; gauges. These aren't necessary, but nice to have. A boost controller, air/fuel mixture gauge, boost gauge, and...another I can't think of right now.



I was thinking about that too and I would def. get that kind of stuff! If it doesn't bother you I will be back on tomorrow and I'll have more questions that you could probably answer but I got to go! Thanks for the information BIG HELP!

Posts in this topic
- CelicaST96   Engine Rebuild or 3S-GTE Swap   Jan 20, 2010 - 7:11 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Power and 7A-FE is a contradiction in the same sen...   Jan 20, 2010 - 7:25 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 7...   Jan 20, 2010 - 8:29 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (CelicaST96 @ Jan 20, 2010 - 8...   Jan 20, 2010 - 8:35 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 8...   Jan 20, 2010 - 8:45 PM
- - Mstoochn   4a-ge would be a better idea, easier swap   Jan 20, 2010 - 7:26 PM
- - Mstoochn   4a-ge is the hi-reving performance Naturally asipr...   Jan 20, 2010 - 8:55 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9:5...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:01 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Like I said, there's no power to be had with a...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:01 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 10...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:07 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (CelicaST96 @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:11 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:14 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 20, 2010 - 10...   Jan 20, 2010 - 9:26 PM
- - Mstoochn   lol yes, more PSI via a boost controller. A stock ...   Jan 20, 2010 - 10:00 PM
- - soulshadow   Do the V6 conversion I would say that's the mo...   Jan 21, 2010 - 12:50 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (CelicaST96 @ Jan 20, 2010 - 9...   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:09 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   ^ what he said research research research. Then co...   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:27 AM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 21, 2010 - 1...   Jan 21, 2010 - 6:14 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 21, 2010 - 1...   Jan 21, 2010 - 6:14 PM
|- - CelicaST96   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 21, 2010 - 1...   Jan 21, 2010 - 6:15 PM
- - CelicaST96   Give me more opinions and ideas! They are real...   Jan 21, 2010 - 6:20 PM


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