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post Feb 24, 2010 - 10:00 PM
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i dont know if anyone else saw it but tonight on the show passtime on speed channel there was a tube chassis celica with a small block american motor in it and it ran a 10 second quarter mile. i was in my room and my roomate screamed my name to come downstairs and see it. I dont watch that show cause its allways american cars, and it wasnt really a 6gc cause it was rwd with usdm muscle motor behind it but it was a rather random sight to see. It even had a blower up through the hood. It is funny though that even with muscle car motor in it and tube chassis it cant touch the 3sgte head/2.2 block frankenstien drag celicas of the late 90's early 2000's. not to mention the supra chassied setups.
 
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post Feb 25, 2010 - 6:56 AM
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God I love how the American auto makers still can't even hit the 100HP Per Liter mark even in 2010 which which the Jappers have been doing since last Century.

Rather have a 6GC with 412HP than a Shipping Container with 412HP...


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post Feb 25, 2010 - 9:45 AM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 25, 2010 - 5:56 AM) *
God I love how the American auto makers still can't even hit the 100HP Per Liter mark even in 2010 which which the Jappers have been doing since last Century.

Rather have a 6GC with 412HP than a Shipping Container with 412HP...

its a little bit harder to hit the 100 hp/l mark when you're dealing with larger displacements. and I'm pretty sure you could get a cobalt with something close to 125hp/l. The NISMO 370Z is doing good to get 96 hp/l out of it's V-6. The more cylinders you ad, the harder it is to get your power / displacement. can you name 1 other Japanese car that can put out similar power in an NA V-8?

oh, I found that a BMW M6 has a 5.0L V-10 that makes 514. But other than that, i havent found anything that is beating the 100 hp/l mark in something besides a, I-4

The bottom line is HP is HP.

Edit: Sorry for the rant. I love my Celica, but I just hate baseless claims that all things American suck.

This post has been edited by jimmykay: Feb 25, 2010 - 12:37 PM


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post Mar 8, 2010 - 11:51 AM
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QUOTE (jimmykay @ Feb 25, 2010 - 10:45 AM) *
QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 25, 2010 - 5:56 AM) *
God I love how the American auto makers still can't even hit the 100HP Per Liter mark even in 2010 which which the Jappers have been doing since last Century.

Rather have a 6GC with 412HP than a Shipping Container with 412HP...

its a little bit harder to hit the 100 hp/l mark when you're dealing with larger displacements. and I'm pretty sure you could get a cobalt with something close to 125hp/l. The NISMO 370Z is doing good to get 96 hp/l out of it's V-6. The more cylinders you ad, the harder it is to get your power / displacement. can you name 1 other Japanese car that can put out similar power in an NA V-8?

oh, I found that a BMW M6 has a 5.0L V-10 that makes 514. But other than that, i havent found anything that is beating the 100 hp/l mark in something besides a, I-4

The bottom line is HP is HP.

Edit: Sorry for the rant. I love my Celica, but I just hate baseless claims that all things American suck.


I don't mean to burst your bubble but there are several larger displacement cars that are currently making 100hp/l including at least two American ones that I can think of off the top of my head. Shelby GT500 anyone? 5.4L 540 hp.
The Vette ZR1 is another one, coming in with a 6.2L that makes 638. Only other Euro I can think of off the top of my head would be the Audi RS4 with a 4.2L making 420.

All of these engines are V8's and not 10's but you get the point.
I can agree with you that it takes American cars a much longer time to develop, but it's not like they don't exist.

As far as a Japanese car with a NA V8... they don't make their cars on the basis of bigger is better so you won't see that. They are perfecting engines progressively from 4's to 6's now. They'll get to the 8's eventually. I'm sure in the next decade we'll see a Tundra with a 600hp V8 lol.

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post Mar 8, 2010 - 1:21 PM
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QUOTE (cardshark525 @ Mar 8, 2010 - 11:51 AM) *
I don't mean to burst your bubble but there are several larger displacement cars that are currently making 100hp/l including at least two American ones that I can think of off the top of my head. Shelby GT500 anyone? 5.4L 540 hp.
The Vette ZR1 is another one, coming in with a 6.2L that makes 638. Only other Euro I can think of off the top of my head would be the Audi RS4 with a 4.2L making 420.


But the GT500 and ZR1 are both supercharged, while the RS4 is naturally aspirated.


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