Mar 2, 2010 - 2:12 PM
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Hey guys its me I am back in the game hehe, I need some info with anyone who can help me out I need to know the main diffrences between the 3SGE and 3SGTE 3rd gen cylinder heads, I need to know what valve cover fits the 3SGE and if a fuel rail of a 3sgte will fit a 3sge head any other diffrence anyone knows please le me no
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Mar 22, 2010 - 4:40 PM
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the 3s-ge was designed to make its peak power at 7000 while the 3s-gte is designed to make its peak power at 6000. there are so many factors you need to take into consideration besides the theoretical output figure. you may find you sacrifice far too much and are better off having an experienced engine builder order some custom cams to account for all specifications. examples are, valve overlap (better for NA, not so good for turbo) turbo size? rev limiter increase? engine durability? low end response? gearing (what will you do if you lose low end response on a long ratio gearbox like the E153 and E154F? Or will you stay with the S54?) The 3SGE only makes its peak power at 7000 because variable valve timing introduces a broader torque curve that positively affects low rpm drivability / cylinder filling sufficiently enough to allow for a broader total RPM operating range. valve overlap being better for NA and not turbo is not the whole picture. VVT changes the rules in valve overlap environment allowing you to have the best of both worlds. AFAIK valve overlap is a good thing at high rpm in turbo cars as well. rev limit is a function of engine component specs and really nothing else. Meaning the components used in the build and their specs/configuration/installation will ultimately decide the engine's rev capability limitations. Engine durability follows a similar thought process. It should be interesting trying to uncover whether the 3SGE or 3SGTE is ultimately engineered with the better potential for high power durability. For low end response you simply cannot argue with the 3SGE being the winner. Variable Valve timing beats Static cam settings no matter how you implement them. Yet another significant consideration towards the possibility that the 3SGE may be the better platform. Like i suggested before I really like this topic! |
Alan 3SGE and 3SGTE 3rd gen Diffrences Mar 2, 2010 - 2:12 PM
yozef hey mate, anything I can help with? Mar 16, 2010 - 12:16 PM
Alan QUOTE (yozef @ Mar 16, 2010 - 1:16 P... Mar 16, 2010 - 12:19 PM
yozef Doing fine thanks.
AFAIK head is the same. Cams ... Mar 17, 2010 - 7:02 AM
6gtfour This is constantly on my mind. I will eventually e... Mar 21, 2010 - 11:49 PM
delusionz the 3s-ge was designed to make its peak power at 7... Mar 22, 2010 - 9:04 AM
Rusty nice you just compared the 4th gen 3S-GE, how abo... Mar 24, 2010 - 1:28 AM
delusionz 6tfour you may want to edit your post when you rea... Mar 24, 2010 - 5:34 AM
6gtfour waw talk about getting carried away with excitemen... Mar 24, 2010 - 4:59 PM
Rusty QUOTE (6gtfour @ Mar 25, 2010 - 10:5... Mar 25, 2010 - 12:27 AM
delusionz Alot of the information circulating around Celica ... Mar 24, 2010 - 9:20 PM
6gtfour Yes it seems a daunting task. Good read.
I am jus... Mar 25, 2010 - 1:12 AM
delusionz How much power are you looking to get? Your needs ... Mar 25, 2010 - 7:41 AM
6gtfour QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 25, 2010 - 8... Mar 25, 2010 - 4:49 PM![]() ![]() |
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