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post Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM
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Ok, I am looking at options here for upgrades and I wanted to know if there is even a difference in keeping the 5sfe 2.2 and maybe swapping the head for a 3sgte (Ofcourse turbos are going to be used) to have the 2.2L or is having a 3sgte doing the 2.2L any different? That's what I really would like to know.

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post Mar 26, 2010 - 3:18 PM
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It all depends on goals.

Yes a forged 5sfte turbo setup will make 400whp without much trouble.

A forged 2.2L stroker is easier work for you to accomplish then a 5sgte. After you have the 5sfe crank machined to accept 3sgte rods, it is just a standard forged engine rebuild.

The 5sgte requires a fair amount of external block work to mate a 3sgte head on it, and a large mismatch of 3sgte and 5sfe parts. There is a fairly extensive amount of block work that needs to be done if you are looking to attach an AWD transmission to it also. I am going the 5sgte route for that fact of the stronger block, thicker dynlinder walls, and the fact that I have the factory 2.2L 5sfe stroked out to a "2.4L"

But to answer your question about them being the same thing (which I guess you mean displacement) then yes, it is the same thing. The 5sgte with 87.5mm pistons is only .05 larger then the 2.2l 3sgte stroker kit.


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Posts in this topic
- Random_Stranger   3sgte (2.2L) vs 5sfe 2.2   Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM
- - SoDo   So you are comparing a 5sgte vs a 3sgte stroked to...   Mar 25, 2010 - 1:06 AM
- - trdproven   theres just a lot extra work and tuning to do a 5s...   Mar 25, 2010 - 8:38 AM
- - garin   i'd go 3sgte... 3sgte is an already turbo equi...   Mar 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Mar 25, 2010 - ...   Mar 25, 2010 - 10:25 AM
- - Smaay   5S-FE does not have squirters! there is more m...   Mar 26, 2010 - 2:50 PM
- - _Jim_   It all depends on goals. Yes a forged 5sfte turbo...   Mar 26, 2010 - 3:18 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 26, 2010 - 1:18 P...   Mar 28, 2010 - 5:53 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Mar 28, 2010 - ...   Mar 28, 2010 - 6:15 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 28, 2010 - 4:1...   Mar 28, 2010 - 6:50 PM
- - bdub215   **** if you want a 2.4 swap a 2az lose weight in t...   Mar 28, 2010 - 9:25 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (bdub215 @ Mar 28, 2010 - 7:25...   Mar 28, 2010 - 10:37 PM
- - richee3   The new 4 cylinder Camry has a 2AZ, so does the Sc...   Mar 28, 2010 - 11:52 PM
- - delusionz   I hope you're not considering this on the trai...   Mar 29, 2010 - 12:04 AM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 29, 2010 - 1...   Mar 29, 2010 - 7:05 AM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 29, 2010 - 8:05 A...   Mar 29, 2010 - 9:19 AM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 29, 2010 - 5:05 A...   Mar 29, 2010 - 12:27 PM
- - MGCustoms325   While you're at it, research the 2gr-fe. In on...   Dec 27, 2010 - 3:06 AM
- - aww_shoook_em   when swapping the 3SGTE, are you gonna have to get...   Jan 7, 2011 - 12:47 PM
- - 95CelicaST   No, you can use the stock 5s mounts. A quick peek ...   Jan 7, 2011 - 3:30 PM
- - taibones   i talked with a shop that mainly deals with toyota...   Jan 7, 2011 - 3:40 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Better to get a 99 5sfe block and have the crank m...   Jan 14, 2011 - 2:39 PM
- - bccentaur3   Or just get 5sfe crower rods no need to machine cr...   Jan 14, 2011 - 3:40 PM
- - 95st-celica   Honestly if i were you, i would stick with a base ...   Jan 14, 2011 - 4:31 PM
- - bccentaur3   That's what time doing with the next build. 3s...   Jan 14, 2011 - 5:20 PM


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