3sgte (2.2L) vs 5sfe 2.2 Options

[Random_Stranger]

Ok, I am looking at options here for upgrades and I wanted to know if there is even a difference in keeping the 5sfe 2.2 and maybe swapping the head for a 3sgte (Ofcourse turbos are going to be used) to have the 2.2L or is having a 3sgte doing the 2.2L any different? That's what I really would like to know.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM

[_Jim_]

It all depends on goals.

Yes a forged 5sfte turbo setup will make 400whp without much trouble.

A forged 2.2L stroker is easier work for you to accomplish then a 5sgte. After you have the 5sfe crank machined to accept 3sgte rods, it is just a standard forged engine rebuild.

The 5sgte requires a fair amount of external block work to mate a 3sgte head on it, and a large mismatch of 3sgte and 5sfe parts. There is a fairly extensive amount of block work that needs to be done if you are looking to attach an AWD transmission to it also. I am going the 5sgte route for that fact of the stronger block, thicker dynlinder walls, and the fact that I have the factory 2.2L 5sfe stroked out to a "2.4L"

But to answer your question about them being the same thing (which I guess you mean displacement) then yes, it is the same thing. The 5sgte with 87.5mm pistons is only .05 larger then the 2.2l 3sgte stroker kit.

[Random_Stranger]

It all depends on goals.

Yes a forged 5sfte turbo setup will make 400whp without much trouble.

A forged 2.2L stroker is easier work for you to accomplish then a 5sgte. After you have the 5sfe crank machined to accept 3sgte rods, it is just a standard forged engine rebuild.

The 5sgte requires a fair amount of external block work to mate a 3sgte head on it, and a large mismatch of 3sgte and 5sfe parts. There is a fairly extensive amount of block work that needs to be done if you are looking to attach an AWD transmission to it also. I am going the 5sgte route for that fact of the stronger block, thicker dynlinder walls, and the fact that I have the factory 2.2L 5sfe stroked out to a "2.4L"

But to answer your question about them being the same thing (which I guess you mean displacement) then yes, it is the same thing. The 5sgte with 87.5mm pistons is only .05 larger then the 2.2l 3sgte stroker kit.

Ok, thanks guys and thank you Jim. Now here's my next question... I haven't researched it myself, but I have heard on the 4g63t, you can do 2.4L stroker kit. Since the 4g63 and the 3sgte are both 2.0L engines, do you think using the stroker kit for the 4g63 is possible to use in combination with the 3sgte?

[presure2]

It all depends on goals.

Yes a forged 5sfte turbo setup will make 400whp without much trouble.

A forged 2.2L stroker is easier work for you to accomplish then a 5sgte. After you have the 5sfe crank machined to accept 3sgte rods, it is just a standard forged engine rebuild.

The 5sgte requires a fair amount of external block work to mate a 3sgte head on it, and a large mismatch of 3sgte and 5sfe parts. There is a fairly extensive amount of block work that needs to be done if you are looking to attach an AWD transmission to it also. I am going the 5sgte route for that fact of the stronger block, thicker dynlinder walls, and the fact that I have the factory 2.2L 5sfe stroked out to a "2.4L"

But to answer your question about them being the same thing (which I guess you mean displacement) then yes, it is the same thing. The 5sgte with 87.5mm pistons is only .05 larger then the 2.2l 3sgte stroker kit.

Ok, thanks guys and thank you Jim. Now here's my next question... I haven't researched it myself, but I have heard on the 4g63t, you can do 2.4L stroker kit. Since the 4g63 and the 3sgte are both 2.0L engines, do you think using the stroker kit for the 4g63 is possible to use in combination with the 3sgte?

no. (thats just the easy answer, not trying to be rude)
there isnt enough cylinder wall thickness to do a true 2.4l on a 3s block. (from what ive read)

[Random_Stranger]

It all depends on goals.

Yes a forged 5sfte turbo setup will make 400whp without much trouble.

A forged 2.2L stroker is easier work for you to accomplish then a 5sgte. After you have the 5sfe crank machined to accept 3sgte rods, it is just a standard forged engine rebuild.

The 5sgte requires a fair amount of external block work to mate a 3sgte head on it, and a large mismatch of 3sgte and 5sfe parts. There is a fairly extensive amount of block work that needs to be done if you are looking to attach an AWD transmission to it also. I am going the 5sgte route for that fact of the stronger block, thicker dynlinder walls, and the fact that I have the factory 2.2L 5sfe stroked out to a "2.4L"

But to answer your question about them being the same thing (which I guess you mean displacement) then yes, it is the same thing. The 5sgte with 87.5mm pistons is only .05 larger then the 2.2l 3sgte stroker kit.

Ok, thanks guys and thank you Jim. Now here's my next question... I haven't researched it myself, but I have heard on the 4g63t, you can do 2.4L stroker kit. Since the 4g63 and the 3sgte are both 2.0L engines, do you think using the stroker kit for the 4g63 is possible to use in combination with the 3sgte?

no. (thats just the easy answer, not trying to be rude)
there isnt enough cylinder wall thickness to do a true 2.4l on a 3s block. (from what ive read)

Oh ok thanks. So then can the 5sfe be brought up to a 2.4L? Basically I am just trying out my options. If I am going to go out of my way to upgrade, I might as well go hard or not at all, or at least live in comfort knowing I can if I wanted to. That's all.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Mar 28, 2010 - 6:51 PM