Turbo Beams? Options

[Espo]

Alright, I've run into a dilemma here. I was under the impression that the 3S-GTE was a red top beams engine, and was planning on swapping that into my ST later next year.

Now, I saw someone's thread in the general discussion forum and it seems the beams is only a 3S-GE, but the 4th generation of the 3S engine.

However, toyota engine code has been explained (as I understand it) as (Engine generation #)(Letter representing engine family)-(features, I.E. G being for performance, T for Turbo, E meaning EFI) so wouldn't this make the beams a 4S-GE...? I'm confused.

Nonetheless, I'm curious as to whether a 3S-GTE Red Top BEAMS was ever produced, or if turboing a beams is possible/practical as compared to just swapping in a 3rd gen 3S-GTE. I wanna hit 300-350whp fairly soon after my swap. I've been doing a lot of reading into the 3S and beams, but clearly I was understanding, lol.

Thanks in advance for any info/help.

[D-Man]

So basically if I were to turbo a beams, even more work would have to be done in getting forged internals to lower the compression in order for boost not to destroy me. Great.

@D-Man: I don't plan on running n/o on whatever my swap is, but it's good to know if I ever resort to that I'm relatively safe.

In any case, so much for that pretty red engine sitting under my hood ): Maybe I'll just make the 3rd gen 3S-GTE look somewhat like a beams (:

the populairty of the BEAMS engine is that it's about the most powerful n/a swap you can do. so if you wanna get the power w/o the gremlins and extra issues of having a FI vehicle, then it's FTW. as for topline power, you're kinda outta luck.

as for the most (powerful?) advanced 3s-gte motor to date being installed in a minivan... IDFK what to tell ya. it makes me cuss every time i think about it. it was only sold in japan, and they were rare-rare from what i understand. i have a buddy over there; and he's yet to spot one.

And yet you can get a 4th gen for cheaper than a 3rd gen...don't ask me how. I've seen a 4th gen on Craigslist for 1k.

and when you need a new part, then you're waiting to have it ordered from japan

but that is a good deal. go buy me one!

well i personally dk if its goin to b a 6k project, so far im in the whole $1800. im jus buying things peeice by peice pay check to pay check as i go. the biggest thing to me is jus having the engine in ur possession so u can go from there and work on it lil by lil. from the way Jim explained it to me its very simpe to do and i honestly dont think its gunna run me 6k, i would think roughly 3 or 4 totally.

that's the BEST thing you could do. make sure you got that extra cash for those gremlins!! i see far too many people trying to cheap out on the swaps; get into it, and then wind up quitting and selling everything off.

[Ted95]

So basically if I were to turbo a beams, even more work would have to be done in getting forged internals to lower the compression in order for boost not to destroy me. Great.

@D-Man: I don't plan on running n/o on whatever my swap is, but it's good to know if I ever resort to that I'm relatively safe.

In any case, so much for that pretty red engine sitting under my hood ): Maybe I'll just make the 3rd gen 3S-GTE look somewhat like a beams (:

the populairty of the BEAMS engine is that it's about the most powerful n/a swap you can do. so if you wanna get the power w/o the gremlins and extra issues of having a FI vehicle, then it's FTW. as for topline power, you're kinda outta luck.

as for the most (powerful?) advanced 3s-gte motor to date being installed in a minivan... IDFK what to tell ya. it makes me cuss every time i think about it. it was only sold in japan, and they were rare-rare from what i understand. i have a buddy over there; and he's yet to spot one.

And yet you can get a 4th gen for cheaper than a 3rd gen...don't ask me how. I've seen a 4th gen on Craigslist for 1k.

and when you need a new part, then you're waiting to have it ordered from japan

but that is a good deal. go buy me one!

well i personally dk if its goin to b a 6k project, so far im in the whole $1800. im jus buying things peeice by peice pay check to pay check as i go. the biggest thing to me is jus having the engine in ur possession so u can go from there and work on it lil by lil. from the way Jim explained it to me its very simpe to do and i honestly dont think its gunna run me 6k, i would think roughly 3 or 4 totally.

that's the BEST thing you could do. make sure you got that extra cash for those gremlins!! i see far too many people trying to cheap out on the swaps; get into it, and then wind up quitting and selling everything off.

^whats the best way? savin 6k or goin peice by peice like i am?