WTB: 3s or BEAMs, lol just curious whats out there. Options

[JuMPiiN]

So im pretty sure my 2.2 just crapped out on me, and im looking into getting a 2nd or 3rd gen 3s or a BEAMs. And hopefully just using my stock tranny with a upgraded clutch and flywheel. So if anyone could tell me who to talk to about doing the swap and so on please let me know, and i would like to get my hands on one with the uncut wiring harness please. Thanks in advance for any help i get. And im looking to do this asap i have the money saved up to do so, and this is my daily so im looking to get it back on the road as soo as possible, so i figure if im going to have to put another engine in why not put in a 3s.or a BEAMs. AS if someone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.

This post has been edited by JuMPiiN: Apr 19, 2010 - 9:03 AM

[JuMPiiN]

The only reason I'm how do you say sketchy, about the GEN3 is that I dont want to upgrade my transmission if I dont have too. I've heard that my stock one cant hold 250hp, then I've heard it should be fine with a new clutch and flywheel, and then I've heard that it could last for a week a month or years. Or i could just pay an additional like 1200 for another transmission which is what i would like to avoid doing. Im looking for something that can give me the basic amount of horsepower which is like 230ish at the most is what im after. I honestly dont want anything above that.

In all seriousness, could i just get a 5s and buy a turbo kit from you Jim ? and it give me about the same amount of HP im after ? Or should i just get a Gen2 or Gen3. I'm just scared of the Gen3 for the above reasons.

This post has been edited by JuMPiiN: Apr 19, 2010 - 7:34 PM

[_Jim_]

The only reason I'm how do you say sketchy, about the GEN3 is that I dont want to upgrade my transmission if I dont have too. I've heard that my stock one cant hold 250hp, then I've heard it should be fine with a new clutch and flywheel, and then I've heard that it could last for a week a month or years. Or i could just pay an additional like 1200 for another transmission which is what i would like to avoid doing. Im looking for something that can give me the basic amount of horsepower which is like 230ish at the most is what im after. I honestly dont want anything above that.

In all seriousness, could i just get a 5s and buy a turbo kit from you Jim ? and it give me about the same amount of HP im after ? Or should i just get a Gen2 or Gen3. I'm just scared of the Gen3 for the above reasons.

Let me clear the air here on this topic. The S54 WILL BE FINE for using with a GEN3 3sgte. The S54 has been beaten to death by MANY users above and beyond 300whp (360bhp). So if you arent looking for 400whp (470bhp) then dont worry about it.

If you are looking for 230hp (about 190whp) then any motor will be fine for you.

Since you current 5s is out of commission, I would swap. If you had a perfectly running 5s, I would gladly sell you the turbo kit off of shannons car...but it wont be cost effective for you since you will have to put in another 5s. But yes, the turbo kit I am selling on a stock 5s will EASILY make 230hp at about 7psi. We made as much as 285whp (350hp) on shannons car at 17psi on a stock unopened 5s.

But for your case, I would swap to a GEN3 since you have a bum motor anyway. You will spend about them same at this point, and have a better motor. A GEN3 will make 230hp with literally no mods done to it. every mod you deide to do later will only make you happier that you went with a GEN3 3sgte. Because when the HP bug bites you, you are a bit stuck with a Beams, the same as you are with the 5sfe. Every mod you do to a GEN3 will drastically increase HP, to the point that you will feel EVERY mod you do.

So you start with your 230hp right out of the box stock GEN3, then later on add an intake for the turbo....then a boost controller and turn up the boost a bit. At this point you spent about $70 in mods and increased you HP to about 300hp (240whp)...then when you get tired of that....you throw on an exhaust system and turn the boost up to 18psi. you are now at 360hp (310whp)...etc. The GEN3 is a VERY fersitile engine and is perfect for the guy (or girl) who is looking for a little more umph then what they have now, or an all out street machine.

[JuMPiiN]

The only reason I'm how do you say sketchy, about the GEN3 is that I dont want to upgrade my transmission if I dont have too. I've heard that my stock one cant hold 250hp, then I've heard it should be fine with a new clutch and flywheel, and then I've heard that it could last for a week a month or years. Or i could just pay an additional like 1200 for another transmission which is what i would like to avoid doing. Im looking for something that can give me the basic amount of horsepower which is like 230ish at the most is what im after. I honestly dont want anything above that.

In all seriousness, could i just get a 5s and buy a turbo kit from you Jim ? and it give me about the same amount of HP im after ? Or should i just get a Gen2 or Gen3. I'm just scared of the Gen3 for the above reasons.

Let me clear the air here on this topic. The S54 WILL BE FINE for using with a GEN3 3sgte. The S54 has been beaten to death by MANY users above and beyond 300whp (360bhp). So if you arent looking for 400whp (470bhp) then dont worry about it.

If you are looking for 230hp (about 190whp) then any motor will be fine for you.

Since you current 5s is out of commission, I would swap. If you had a perfectly running 5s, I would gladly sell you the turbo kit off of shannons car...but it wont be cost effective for you since you will have to put in another 5s. But yes, the turbo kit I am selling on a stock 5s will EASILY make 230hp at about 7psi. We made as much as 285whp (350hp) on shannons car at 17psi on a stock unopened 5s.

But for your case, I would swap to a GEN3 since you have a bum motor anyway. You will spend about them same at this point, and have a better motor. A GEN3 will make 230hp with literally no mods done to it. every mod you deide to do later will only make you happier that you went with a GEN3 3sgte. Because when the HP bug bites you, you are a bit stuck with a Beams, the same as you are with the 5sfe. Every mod you do to a GEN3 will drastically increase HP, to the point that you will feel EVERY mod you do.

So you start with your 230hp right out of the box stock GEN3, then later on add an intake for the turbo....then a boost controller and turn up the boost a bit. At this point you spent about $70 in mods and increased you HP to about 300hp (240whp)...then when you get tired of that....you throw on an exhaust system and turn the boost up to 18psi. you are now at 360hp (310whp)...etc. The GEN3 is a VERY fersitile engine and is perfect for the guy (or girl) who is looking for a little more umph then what they have now, or an all out street machine.

your a good salesman ! haha but anyways if it can hold 300 at the most, and is a direct swap with my stock transmission i'll go this route. I just thought the BEAMs was easier But if the 3s swap is direct and easy then i'll prob be going this route. You said you could ship it to my door or the shop im doing it at for 1700 ?