6G Celicas Forums

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> one more NA swap option, has not been done yet...
post Dec 31, 2003 - 4:45 PM
+Quote Post
GeEkBoY



Enthusiast
**
Joined May 17, '03
From Ontario, Canada
Currently Offline

Reputation: 1 (100%)




Let me throw something out here, there is more to performance than just horsepower.

With all the recent talk of the 2zz swap got me thinking.
From what I have found a 2000+ GTS can do a 0-60 in about 6.6 seconds

2000 mass = 2500 lbs
1994 mass = 2580 lbs

If you swap in the 2ZZ your weight should be down closer to 2500 so you should get a 0-60 around 6.6 seconds. Not bad, but consider this:

2AZ-FE, the replacement for the 3S and 5S

In the 2002 Camry with a 5 speed, 0-60 is 8.0 seconds, and this car weighs 3147 or so.

dropping that engine in a 6gc, your 0-60 should be around:
8.0 / 3147 * 2580 = 6.57 seconds (rough approximation)

note that this does not take into accont the reduced weight in engines and better transmission ratios in the 6gc, and this engine is not tuned runing on 87 octane cat-pee.

this engine may bolt up to the GT tranny, not sure though...
 
Start new topic
Replies
post Jan 2, 2004 - 1:29 PM
+Quote Post
GeEkBoY



Enthusiast
**
Joined May 17, '03
From Ontario, Canada
Currently Offline

Reputation: 1 (100%)




what I used is a fairly straightforward approximation, but it does use some assumptions. Start off with old faithful:

F = M x A
A = F / M

time to velocity:
V = A x t
t = V / A

add the two:
t = (V x M) / F

where: F = force, M = mass, A = acceleration, t = time, V = Velocity

so as you can see from this, time to a velocity is proportional to mass when the force and velocity are the same.

velocity is 60mph and does not change...

constant force assumption - shifts are neglected and the force is not constant as you reduce the force when you up-shift. but remeber, the celica trans is geared lower than the camry so it should be better and make up for this. traction is assumed the same in both cars, they are both FWD, so with good rubber, the celica should at least match the camry's traction with a good driver.

the mr2 is not a fair comp as going from fwd to rwd is a big change, but fwd to fwd is much closer.

I do believe you can get under 7 seconds with this swap, and would be as fast or faster than a 2ZZ swap.

Posts in this topic


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: July 24th, 2025 - 9:34 AM