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> Going 7A-FE to 3S-GE BEAMS?, Any major differences from the 5S-FE - 3S-GE BEAMS swap?
post Apr 25, 2010 - 5:14 PM
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Hi!

I am really tired of the 7A-FE engine now. The Celica look like a sportscar, but perform like a... yeah, it perform badly. I want to keep the cocky guys behind me, when they try to race against me, not in front.

And the 7A-FE have been rolling nearly 200.000km, and very soon I need to change timing belt, water and oil pumps, clutch and so on. So the thought "swap engine" came by.

Since I live in Norway, its really strict laws of swapping engines. But I am 99% sure that I can swap into the 3S-GE legally, without changing all the suspension, brakes and so on.

So, we have the engine, but which generation? Then the other thought "BEAMS" came by. Its the same engine code, but a lot better.(right? biggrin.gif)

VVT-i, 200horsepower, sexy look and so on


BUT the big question is: Will this be simple, or not? I think I am going to buy a RHD frontcut, but my car is LHD, so I think it will be some playing with the harness.

Is there anyone that have done this swap? I cant find any with the search, so this is maybe a really rare swap.

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post May 3, 2010 - 4:54 PM
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Yeah, I should do it when I got the possibility. It cant be so expensive to do it myself, so why not! smile.gif

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And there, I think my dream jus got blown... After talking to Toyota Norway.

My plan was to get this swap street legal here in Norway, but I was now told by a technican in Toyota that it would be too much headache. He said that I needed to change the brakes at the front, some stiffness bars in the engine bay(?), and get it emission legal. Toyota Norway says that I need to rebuild my car to the exact same as the car I am getting the engine from.

That sucked, I really wanted to become the first in Norway to do this swap.... frown.gif
post May 3, 2010 - 8:02 PM
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QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 3, 2010 - 5:54 PM) *
Yeah, I should do it when I got the possibility. It cant be so expensive to do it myself, so why not! smile.gif

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And there, I think my dream jus got blown... After talking to Toyota Norway.

My plan was to get this swap street legal here in Norway, but I was now told by a technician in Toyota that it would be too much headache. He said that I needed to change the brakes at the front, some stiffness bars in the engine bay(?), and get it emission legal. Toyota Norway says that I need to rebuild my car to the exact same as the car I am getting the engine from.

That sucked, I really wanted to become the first in Norway to do this swap.... frown.gif


didn't want to kill your dreams but the truth with the 7afe swap is that its a lot of headache..... BUT! if u wanna do it please have patience u will need it..... i found that out the hard way with mine .. (nb.. i use mine to go to work .. and that was a drag not having it for the last 2 months) .... the sub frames in the st models are different from the gt. when i got the mounts for the regular 3sge (thats the swap that i did not the beams but they are similar) i realize that i had to use back my mounts and the mechanic had to fabricate the brackets to fit. only the right side mount i used and even then u have to bore the holes for that. then also after mounting the engine with the other mounts i realize that the engine is 1" and a half over to the left hence the original axle that i bought for the 3sge was short on the right side and now i had to cut the original 7afe axle and weld it for it to fit. so right now i am currently searching for a longer axle or just to take my car to another mechanic and let then figure out how to mount the engine properly oh and i have the original 7afe axle (left side)in it but other than that it drives well. have other stuff to tell u that i went through but i have to go pick up the wife so later.


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Posts in this topic
- AnaXyd   Going 7A-FE to 3S-GE BEAMS?   Apr 25, 2010 - 5:14 PM
- - hurley97   I just did a really quick search and found a ton o...   Apr 25, 2010 - 6:15 PM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for all this info. I really appreciate i...   Apr 26, 2010 - 3:31 AM
- - hurley97   The ST and GT have the same hubs so Beams axles wi...   Apr 26, 2010 - 9:37 AM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for great reply. Then the axle problem ...   Apr 27, 2010 - 2:06 AM
- - AnaXyd   I really need this approved guys! Will the ha...   Apr 29, 2010 - 7:20 AM
- - AnaXyd   Okay, have checked around a bit, and it looks like...   May 2, 2010 - 7:00 AM
- - Rusty   yup you got the mounts spot on, yes they need to b...   May 2, 2010 - 1:34 PM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for reply, Rusty! Okay, then I will...   May 3, 2010 - 5:40 AM
- - Rusty   yes its proberly a good ida to do it. Should be do...   May 3, 2010 - 1:20 PM
- - AnaXyd   Yeah, I should do it when I got the possibility. I...   May 3, 2010 - 4:54 PM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 3, 2010 - 5:54 P...   May 3, 2010 - 8:02 PM
- - Rusty   Maybe if you got a 1/2 cut you'd get the brake...   May 4, 2010 - 1:22 AM
- - AnaXyd   QUOTE (zavnet @ May 3, 2010 - 8:02 P...   May 4, 2010 - 2:06 AM
- - Rusty   nope they (BEAMS) only came out RHD from Japan.. ...   May 4, 2010 - 2:14 AM
- - AnaXyd   Damn, if they were LHD too, it would have been alo...   May 4, 2010 - 2:20 AM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 4, 2010 - 3:20 A...   May 4, 2010 - 12:43 PM
- - AnaXyd   That looks like a LOT of more trouble that the GT ...   May 5, 2010 - 1:12 AM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 5, 2010 - 2:12 A...   May 5, 2010 - 9:58 AM
- - AnaXyd   Yeah, but you are sure that your technicans dont h...   May 6, 2010 - 2:00 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   non beams 3sge has 177 hp btw   May 6, 2010 - 9:55 PM
- - AnaXyd   177hp is not bad! Is the BEAMS so much better,...   May 7, 2010 - 2:45 AM
- - Rusty   heres pretty much what you need to do: http://www....   May 7, 2010 - 3:51 PM
- - AnaXyd   Awesome! That was a great resource! Thanks...   May 8, 2010 - 4:08 PM
- - AnaXyd   Is there any big difference between non-BEAMS and ...   May 15, 2010 - 4:54 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 15, 2010 - 5:54 ...   May 15, 2010 - 4:15 PM
- - AnaXyd   Hmm, that sounds strange! But well, I think I ...   May 15, 2010 - 5:33 PM
- - Rusty   hmm Bonzai just wondering if you have seen this 3r...   May 16, 2010 - 1:11 AM
- - njccmd2002   The beams to be honest, really picks ups at 4000 r...   May 16, 2010 - 3:14 PM
- - AnaXyd   Okay, so a non-beams can be good if you upgrade it...   May 16, 2010 - 3:43 PM
- - richee3   My question to you is why does it matter if it...   May 16, 2010 - 5:40 PM
- - AnaXyd   @richee3: You got a point there! And I was thi...   May 17, 2010 - 5:11 AM
- - SwissFerdi   If I remember correctly, the BEAMS swaps much more...   May 17, 2010 - 12:49 PM
- - AnaXyd   I was thinking of getting a front-cut BEAMS, so th...   May 20, 2010 - 1:11 PM


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