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> Going 7A-FE to 3S-GE BEAMS?, Any major differences from the 5S-FE - 3S-GE BEAMS swap?
post Apr 25, 2010 - 5:14 PM
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Hi!

I am really tired of the 7A-FE engine now. The Celica look like a sportscar, but perform like a... yeah, it perform badly. I want to keep the cocky guys behind me, when they try to race against me, not in front.

And the 7A-FE have been rolling nearly 200.000km, and very soon I need to change timing belt, water and oil pumps, clutch and so on. So the thought "swap engine" came by.

Since I live in Norway, its really strict laws of swapping engines. But I am 99% sure that I can swap into the 3S-GE legally, without changing all the suspension, brakes and so on.

So, we have the engine, but which generation? Then the other thought "BEAMS" came by. Its the same engine code, but a lot better.(right? biggrin.gif)

VVT-i, 200horsepower, sexy look and so on


BUT the big question is: Will this be simple, or not? I think I am going to buy a RHD frontcut, but my car is LHD, so I think it will be some playing with the harness.

Is there anyone that have done this swap? I cant find any with the search, so this is maybe a really rare swap.

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post May 4, 2010 - 2:20 AM
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Damn, if they were LHD too, it would have been alot easier! But a halfcut is rare, and it will still be a headache to get it in, like zavnet says.

But, is the 3S-GE non-beams so much worse than the BEAMS? It has 30hp less or something, and I can live with that! smile.gif
post May 4, 2010 - 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 4, 2010 - 3:20 AM) *
Damn, if they were LHD too, it would have been alot easier! But a halfcut is rare, and it will still be a headache to get it in, like zavnet says.

But, is the 3S-GE non-beams so much worse than the BEAMS? It has 30hp less or something, and I can live with that! smile.gif



the 3sge non beams is 190hp i think and its the same setup re engine mounts. yes my swap is complete now however i am still driving around with a cut and welded axle i am still searching for a longer one that i can take to a machine shop and cut to the correct length and have them put back in the splines.

as for our left hand drive celicas be sure to get a longer gas pedal cable to make the "bend" properly so that u can have smooth acceleration. my car is still automatic but i went through serious headache with firstly the tranni that i got . it didn't carry a speed sensor and uses ABS so i had to take it back to the dealer that i got it from and find one thats electronical as well and uses a speed sensor hence i didn't have to trouble my dash. but the one i got was total garbage the thing kept stalling the car in reverse and drive because the transmission it self had a fault ... after thinking that it was the elctrician who wired my car wrong and going back and forth (to elctrician and transmission man) taking out valve body and all that..didn't work so then we decided to just get rid of it and buy another one similar and...... walla it worked! no more problems just that the kick down cable was short had to extend that as well. have a few upgrades to drop in now thats sitting around at home such as MSD igniter and hks limiter...350 psi walbro fuel pump and it needs to be piped out properly ....and speaking about piped out u will need to get the exhaust that connects immediately after the exhaust manifold thats like a v shape .. i had to do some cutting and welding there. yup lots of work i almost thought to myself at one point that this celica was definitely not made to have the 3sge engine after nearly giving up.


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Posts in this topic
- AnaXyd   Going 7A-FE to 3S-GE BEAMS?   Apr 25, 2010 - 5:14 PM
- - hurley97   I just did a really quick search and found a ton o...   Apr 25, 2010 - 6:15 PM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for all this info. I really appreciate i...   Apr 26, 2010 - 3:31 AM
- - hurley97   The ST and GT have the same hubs so Beams axles wi...   Apr 26, 2010 - 9:37 AM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for great reply. Then the axle problem ...   Apr 27, 2010 - 2:06 AM
- - AnaXyd   I really need this approved guys! Will the ha...   Apr 29, 2010 - 7:20 AM
- - AnaXyd   Okay, have checked around a bit, and it looks like...   May 2, 2010 - 7:00 AM
- - Rusty   yup you got the mounts spot on, yes they need to b...   May 2, 2010 - 1:34 PM
- - AnaXyd   Thank you for reply, Rusty! Okay, then I will...   May 3, 2010 - 5:40 AM
- - Rusty   yes its proberly a good ida to do it. Should be do...   May 3, 2010 - 1:20 PM
- - AnaXyd   Yeah, I should do it when I got the possibility. I...   May 3, 2010 - 4:54 PM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 3, 2010 - 5:54 P...   May 3, 2010 - 8:02 PM
- - Rusty   Maybe if you got a 1/2 cut you'd get the brake...   May 4, 2010 - 1:22 AM
- - AnaXyd   QUOTE (zavnet @ May 3, 2010 - 8:02 P...   May 4, 2010 - 2:06 AM
- - Rusty   nope they (BEAMS) only came out RHD from Japan.. ...   May 4, 2010 - 2:14 AM
- - AnaXyd   Damn, if they were LHD too, it would have been alo...   May 4, 2010 - 2:20 AM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 4, 2010 - 3:20 A...   May 4, 2010 - 12:43 PM
- - AnaXyd   That looks like a LOT of more trouble that the GT ...   May 5, 2010 - 1:12 AM
|- - zavnet   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 5, 2010 - 2:12 A...   May 5, 2010 - 9:58 AM
- - AnaXyd   Yeah, but you are sure that your technicans dont h...   May 6, 2010 - 2:00 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   non beams 3sge has 177 hp btw   May 6, 2010 - 9:55 PM
- - AnaXyd   177hp is not bad! Is the BEAMS so much better,...   May 7, 2010 - 2:45 AM
- - Rusty   heres pretty much what you need to do: http://www....   May 7, 2010 - 3:51 PM
- - AnaXyd   Awesome! That was a great resource! Thanks...   May 8, 2010 - 4:08 PM
- - AnaXyd   Is there any big difference between non-BEAMS and ...   May 15, 2010 - 4:54 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ May 15, 2010 - 5:54 ...   May 15, 2010 - 4:15 PM
- - AnaXyd   Hmm, that sounds strange! But well, I think I ...   May 15, 2010 - 5:33 PM
- - Rusty   hmm Bonzai just wondering if you have seen this 3r...   May 16, 2010 - 1:11 AM
- - njccmd2002   The beams to be honest, really picks ups at 4000 r...   May 16, 2010 - 3:14 PM
- - AnaXyd   Okay, so a non-beams can be good if you upgrade it...   May 16, 2010 - 3:43 PM
- - richee3   My question to you is why does it matter if it...   May 16, 2010 - 5:40 PM
- - AnaXyd   @richee3: You got a point there! And I was thi...   May 17, 2010 - 5:11 AM
- - SwissFerdi   If I remember correctly, the BEAMS swaps much more...   May 17, 2010 - 12:49 PM
- - AnaXyd   I was thinking of getting a front-cut BEAMS, so th...   May 20, 2010 - 1:11 PM


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