Sep 27, 2010 - 5:27 PM
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I just bought a 95 celica GT liftback for the sole purpose of rally racing. I'm building it to meet Rally America and NASA specs.
I'm scrolling through reading as much as I can about the car, but any opinions on weak areas on this car would be appreciated; as in stresses a rally car might really effect. I will be welding as many seems as I can find, at minimum 6 point cage, but i'll probably make it 8 as i plan on going through the firewall to the front strut towers. Basically just reinforcing anything I can. My goal is to compete in blackriver stages next september. This post has been edited by czwalga: Aug 6, 2012 - 7:31 AM -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
-95 Celica GT Rally Car - 3sge/AWD -10 F150 Always buying stock wheels... PM me if interested in selling. |
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Nov 8, 2010 - 10:17 PM
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lookin good...be details on the mounting and what must be done to achieve a good rally car...i plan to put roll cage too, but i might as well learn from you first. at which point you put the bar and why that location as far for details please.
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Nov 10, 2010 - 2:43 PM
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lookin good...be details on the mounting and what must be done to achieve a good rally car...i plan to put roll cage too, but i might as well learn from you first. at which point you put the bar and why that location as far for details please. Well, rally car is all about suspension. I'm strengthening all the strut towers because they take a ton of abuse when you're coming down from the air. As far as putting the roll cage, you need to buy a bender + dies. I have a JD2 bender, with the bender, stand, dies, its about $900. The tube is around $7 a foot; I bought 120 feet. Fortunately for me, I know someone that had extra DOM laying around from a huge steel company and I got it for 1.50 a foot. Building the cage itself... you have to build to whatever you plan on racing. Rally America and NHRA specs are completely different. My Rx7 cage was just a basicaly 4 point halo, plus removable door bars. This was just so I could run under 11.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile without being thrown out of the track. I probably only have 25 feet of tubing into it. If you dont plan on racing in anything specific, I either wouldnt bother putting a cage in or just doing a basic roll bar. Rx7 simple roll bar... ![]() ![]() ![]() Vs.... something like this is what the rally cage will be...
This post has been edited by czwalga: Nov 10, 2010 - 2:52 PM -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
-95 Celica GT Rally Car - 3sge/AWD -10 F150 Always buying stock wheels... PM me if interested in selling. |
czwalga 6th Gen Celica Rally Car AWD Build Sep 27, 2010 - 5:27 PM
mkernz22 Welcome to the forum!
Good Luck with the build... Sep 27, 2010 - 5:32 PM
czwalga QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Sep 27, 2010 - 6:3... Sep 27, 2010 - 5:38 PM
Tigawoods i knew i recognized the 7!
i was on pittspeed ... Sep 27, 2010 - 5:44 PM
czwalga QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Sep 27, 2010 - 5... Sep 28, 2010 - 6:50 AM
Johnnyny a good rear strut brace will go a long way Sep 27, 2010 - 7:07 PM
stl95celica You should also try an hit the 100 Acre Wood rally... Sep 27, 2010 - 7:44 PM
DEATH the 6th Gen Celica was designed specifically FOR t... Sep 28, 2010 - 11:45 AM
richee3 Contact windowlicker. He's a member on here wh... Sep 28, 2010 - 1:16 PM
BonzaiCelica yes I always to talk to windowlicker, you should s... Sep 28, 2010 - 2:56 PM
czwalga Cool Ill have to PM him.
Does he do actual rall... Sep 28, 2010 - 3:59 PM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (czwalga @ Sep 28, 2010 - 3:59... Sep 28, 2010 - 5:14 PM
Tigawoods he does rallycross.
rally is a whole different bal... Sep 28, 2010 - 9:20 PM
Coomer Welcome! Looking forward to watching your rall... Sep 29, 2010 - 1:06 AM
windowlicker my ears were burning cause someone was talking abo... Sep 29, 2010 - 2:41 AM
czwalga QUOTE (windowlicker @ Sep 29, 2010 - 2... Sep 29, 2010 - 5:41 AM
windowlicker the car has held up really well for the beating i ... Sep 29, 2010 - 1:30 PM
czwalga That's not bad at all...basic stuff. That is ... Sep 30, 2010 - 8:20 AM
Tigawoods where are you around pittsburgh? Sep 30, 2010 - 11:20 AM
windowlicker cool, look forward to seeing what you do with the ... Sep 30, 2010 - 1:16 PM
czwalga Picked up the car today. I'm going to start g... Oct 1, 2010 - 3:46 PM
tony55343 nice looks like a damn good buy for 650. keep us u... Oct 9, 2010 - 11:47 AM
presure2 looks to be in good shape for the price!
good ... Oct 9, 2010 - 11:56 AM
czwalga The car's finally gutted. Engine should be co... Oct 9, 2010 - 4:30 PM
4-eyed-freek drop it down from underneath.. its a bit easier th... Oct 9, 2010 - 4:49 PM
presure2 not in a celica.
15-16 chain links on the drivers ... Oct 10, 2010 - 9:09 AM
czwalga QUOTE (presure2 @ Oct 10, 2010 - 9:0... Oct 10, 2010 - 5:05 PM
presure2 yea, you dont have to remove it to remove the engi... Oct 11, 2010 - 5:57 AM
lagos Do the chain like Pressure2 said and put a floor j... Oct 11, 2010 - 7:06 AM
czwalga Thanks guys.
I already pulled the harness off. I... Oct 11, 2010 - 8:29 AM
tony55343 yup they will need to be replaced. Oct 11, 2010 - 12:38 PM
czwalga Progress has been slow... I havent been working on... Oct 30, 2010 - 2:52 PM
Tigawoods ill have to come see this sometime Oct 31, 2010 - 12:49 PM
czwalga QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Oct 31, 2010 - 1... Nov 1, 2010 - 10:24 AM
windowlicker looking good. keep posting progress pics. Oct 31, 2010 - 6:00 PM
czwalga Reinforced the strut towers to handle the abuse. ... Nov 8, 2010 - 9:59 PM
presure2 looks great so far man! Nov 11, 2010 - 12:16 AM
czwalga I'll have some pics this week... got the entir... Nov 29, 2010 - 8:45 AM
mkernz22 Ehhh, I'm not sure if that would be in the bes... Nov 29, 2010 - 11:31 AM
Culpable04 your trans will blow in the middle of first race, ... Nov 29, 2010 - 12:44 PM
czwalga QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 29, 2010 - 1... Nov 29, 2010 - 12:58 PM
czwalga Once I finish the damn seat brackets i'll be a... Nov 30, 2010 - 7:02 PM
easternpiro1 wow man! great progress! and stevenson, th... Dec 1, 2010 - 2:48 PM
blu94gt When I'm done with school I want to do the sam... Dec 6, 2010 - 2:50 PM
epocsirhc Awesome build! I love to see people do everyth... Dec 7, 2010 - 10:10 PM
czwalga QUOTE (epocsirhc @ Dec 7, 2010 - 11... Dec 8, 2010 - 7:04 PM
mkernz22 RE: 6th Gen Celica Rally Car AWD Build Dec 8, 2010 - 7:51 PM
playr158 hot damn Dec 8, 2010 - 8:47 PM
mmmchocolate QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 8, 2010 - 5:51... Dec 8, 2010 - 11:35 PM
richee3 QUOTE (mmmchocolate @ Dec 8, 2010 - 11... Dec 9, 2010 - 2:39 AM
mkernz22 QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 9, 2010 - 3:39 ... Dec 9, 2010 - 9:30 AM
czwalga Thanks for the compliments guys.
Hopefully ill... Dec 10, 2010 - 7:04 AM
czwalga Well, I have off this week. Finally have some tim... Dec 27, 2010 - 8:19 PM
czwalga Anyone know where to buy the roof vent cover that ... Dec 27, 2010 - 10:03 PM
sips I like your style. I have an FD and a GT4 Celica t... Dec 29, 2010 - 1:15 PM
3WayStunna I think you should check out this thread on gt4oc.... Dec 30, 2010 - 4:46 AM
illneversellmycelli amazing im saving this thread for sure. i swear yo... Dec 30, 2010 - 8:10 AM
czwalga Thanks for the pic.
I've found a place to bu... Dec 30, 2010 - 9:01 AM
czwalga Nothing major this weekend. I was a worthless. T... Jan 9, 2011 - 6:38 PM
presure2 nice ductwork!! Jan 9, 2011 - 7:45 PM
czwalga QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 7:45... Jan 9, 2011 - 8:52 PM
presure2 QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 9, 2011 - 8:52 ... Jan 10, 2011 - 8:59 AM
playr158 why keep the AC?! Jan 9, 2011 - 8:20 PM
playr158 so you plan on keeping it for just heat?
I just t... Jan 10, 2011 - 12:14 AM
czwalga QUOTE (playr158 @ Jan 10, 2011 - 1:1... Jan 10, 2011 - 8:23 AM
czwalga How long do you think it would take to do the AWD ... Jan 18, 2011 - 8:33 AM
Culpable04 with your welding skills I don't think that... Jan 18, 2011 - 9:02 AM
czwalga Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Speak o... Jan 18, 2011 - 9:20 AM
mkernz22 search for jmeyer's thread, he did an awd swap... Jan 18, 2011 - 4:39 PM
czwalga He's unresponsive...besides $1k for those... Jan 19, 2011 - 1:55 PM
Culpable04 yes ST205 cables are needed. Jan 19, 2011 - 2:50 PM
czwalga Stupid question guys.
Do the GT4's have the ... Jan 20, 2011 - 7:18 PM
Neon90424 QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 20, 2011 - 8:18... Jan 20, 2011 - 10:31 PM
czwalga QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Jan 20, 2011 - 11... Jan 21, 2011 - 7:22 AM
delusionz QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Jan 21, 2011 - 4... Jan 21, 2011 - 8:50 PM
mkernz22 I'm not completely sure about the GT4, but the... Jan 20, 2011 - 7:23 PM
czwalga So has anyone actually installed a GT4 gas tank in... Jan 20, 2011 - 7:55 PM
czwalga So yeah, zero percent chance this sucker fits with... Jan 20, 2011 - 8:11 PM
mkernz22 I believe the GT4's have a shallower, but larg... Jan 20, 2011 - 8:18 PM
czwalga No worries as of yet, i like cutting stuff. Wheel... Jan 20, 2011 - 8:33 PM
enderswift I am really enjoying this thread. I can only take ... Jan 20, 2011 - 9:10 PM
czwalga QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 20, 2011 - 9... Jan 21, 2011 - 7:16 AM
czwalga Well after cutting the spare tire well out, and a ... Jan 26, 2011 - 11:06 AM
czwalga I'm rebuilding the engine and waiting for my E... Jan 31, 2011 - 8:14 PM
mak5603 Nice cage man, liking the gussets. Jan 31, 2011 - 8:29 PM
bccentaur3 Why dont ya get fancy and dimple die your gussets? Feb 1, 2011 - 1:36 AM
czwalga QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 1, 2011 - 2... Feb 1, 2011 - 7:49 AM
96stgreendemon This is a truely impressive thread, my hat is off ... Feb 1, 2011 - 8:59 AM
czwalga QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Feb 1, 2011 - 9... Feb 2, 2011 - 9:56 AM
presure2 how thick is the gusset material?
it may be the pi... Feb 2, 2011 - 10:01 AM
czwalga QUOTE (presure2 @ Feb 2, 2011 - 10:0... Feb 2, 2011 - 11:06 AM
presure2 QUOTE (czwalga @ Feb 2, 2011 - 11:06... Feb 2, 2011 - 11:26 AM
bccentaur3 Any reason why the main hoop is pretty far back? I... Feb 3, 2011 - 5:33 PM
czwalga QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 3, 2011 - 5... Feb 4, 2011 - 1:41 PM
czwalga Ugh.... still waiting on the transmission. Progre... Feb 10, 2011 - 9:05 AM
96stgreendemon are you still doing the 5sfe and awd combo? i cant... Feb 10, 2011 - 9:16 AM
czwalga QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Feb 10, 2011 - 1... Feb 10, 2011 - 9:30 AM
czwalga Hmm well good news. R&L carriers called me the... Feb 10, 2011 - 10:20 AM![]() ![]() |
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